fetcheveryone

Fleecy made a good point?!

I am getting used to the changes but I don't like the layout of the new blog page. I liked the old tiled style as it was easy on the eye. Too much scrolling required with the new layout and less attractive layout.

I don't think the following was caused by the layout changes, but something I've been meaning to ask :-
On the Glasses View of a training entry, the Elevation graph and the Cadence graph have no vertical scale, is that meant to be like that, or been missed out ? The Pace graph above them does have a vertical scale. A graph without a scale is not very meaningful.

Gus - if you tap or mouseover, you should get a little popup showing the numbers. Now that they are separate graphs, it's much easier for me to add a scale to them - but I hope you'll excuse me if I hold that thought whilst I concentrate on the update

Seratonin - for less scrolling, you could try switching the avatars off? I might look at reintroducing the three-column layout, but not in the very short-term.

.B. -

Ah yes, not a problem
Have you just changed something on the Training Log view in last 20 mins ? The first 2 columns, ie Twitter/View/Edit/Scales symbols, and Date are now spread over 4 lines rather than 1. Laptop, Windows 10 and Chrome

A lot of the lists seem to be on double spacing now so lots of scrolling down.
On the whole league list (on my laptop) my name is no longer high-lighted.
I prefer the tiles on the blog page too.

ive always found it painful to use on my mobile....but im now starting to like it so that must be good

Gus - yes, but I've just now made another change - see how that looks.
Alpenrose - can you give me an example of a list?
DM -

One change that I'd like to see - on my mobile (Android) there is the black header with Fetcheveryone logo and the three-bar menu icon, and below that is a red header with whatever sub-section I'm currently on (i.e. Blogs) and the triangle for the drop down menu. On that red header, could the word 'Blogs' or 'Forum' or 'Games' etc. be made into a clickable link?
Currently if you read through a few pages of a thread, or read a blog, you have to go into a menu to get back to the main forum page or blog page etc. It's not a massive problem, but a bit annoying.

Carps - yes, definitely - I'll do that today.

The symbols column is fixed, but date is still over 4 lines

All seems to have settled down for me -both on the desktop and my phone Top work fella

Carps - that should be clickable now.
Gus - another try?
BL -

Getting there, date over 3 lines now
Sun
Jun 19th
9am

How wide is your browser?

1366*768 resolution, viewing it fullscreen

Training Entries - Heart view is squishing the date column and forcing it to multi-line. Split view looks odd too but I suppose there's no choice there.

Sorry. That's viewed on Windows with Chrome if it makes any difference.

Just seen Molesy's comment, and the date is sometimes OK if I change the variable final column. I normally have Notes showing

can we have the last poster name back on the home page latest forum posts. Helpsme tell if anyone has replied to a forum I'm not watching after my post (I have no idea what time I post ... or even the time now)

Getting more and more used to the changes but still miss the text menus always at the top of the screen on the mobile version

Dio - my theory was that a user would have to expand the old pages with a finger gesture (matron) to view the menus - so a tap to reveal them in theory requires less finger work.

Flanker - that should be done now - although you can also tell by the avatar.

Sorry Fetch, (I'm on Windows 8.1 and Firefox)
Training Log page and Your Routes list that I can see at the moment.

No worries. And by double spaced, do you mean there's an empty line above and below; or do you mean that some bits are wrapping onto two lines?

Would like to have name highlight back on for League tables. ok for games

Would like to post runs to twitter from my mobile - can't find a way of doing this at present. Rest of changes are great.

All good on my mac. In IOS it is also very good but I clicked on "Submit your blog by email" (by mistake) and that page still has a spacing issue - picture takes up most of the page with the text only 7 or 8 characters wide on the right.

No wrapping, just seem very spaced to me so lots of scrolling to do.

Hi, just noticed on my 'race times' tab , the spacing of the columns means some of the times are going onto 2nd line making it harder to read.

Winded - that page should be sorted now.
Stevewjj - click to view the run in detail, and you'll hopefully see that I've crowbarred the Twitter button into there. Not pretty, but my tea's nearly ready.
Dragon_Reborn - that *should* be back now - try a refresh.

I made a good point?!

It's absolutely fine now on my MacBook and on my terrible uni desktop, and I'm adapting to it finally on my iPhone, but I do agree about the scrolling on the blogs pages, you used to be able to get a snapshot of ones you hadn't read etc but now you have to scroll for ages to go beyond the highlights. I'm sure you can come up with a clever solution

Oh, one thing I thought of:
In the menu the forum and training etc are near the top, but blogs are wayyyyy down the list underneath stuff I NEVER use like injury and god knows what. It would probably make sense to have the menu in order of the popularity of the items in it, wouldn't it? So put training up the top as that's what most people use, then forums then whatever items are the next most visited etc.

Exactamundo - I am moving Injury into the training section, and will do some other nudging.

This is why we love you

Thanks Fetch, that's made things better - I was always touching the header before remembering and going via one of the menus

Fleecio makes another stupendous point and yet you are already on the case, this is an agile DevOps team in full-flow. You should be on an expert panel for this stuff

Does the old mobile site not exist any more? When I try to navigate to it it takes me to the desktop site. Android. Samsung Galaxy. Sorry if it's a dim qu. I preferred the mobile site....

Not Galaxy. Sorry. Samsung S4. Doh!

Were the swim/bike mileage numbers in profiles colour coded just before the update? I know they used to be a while ago and n0w they are just while on black. (mac/safari)

The fastest over a certain distance lists that are linked in the Newsletter are all wonky on my Samsung S5 on chrome. The rank, name and time are crushed onto the right hand side of the screen with about two characters width each.

I don't like the blogs on my windows phone. As per Seratonin too much scrolling to see the new stuff. The headers take up too much space, the featured blog headings are too big. Scroll scroll scroll.

Forums also not good. If someone has a long name it takes up all the screen and all the text of the comment is squished into a slither down the side leading to more fecking scrolling if I want to try and read it.

Safari/Mac - the training diary used to have buttons to swap between run miles/bike miles/etc - now it is a drop down. It works perfectly well and has amore streamlined look but it seems to me it was a bit more user friendly before.

IM - can you send me a screenshot of your forum view? You can either post it in the gallery, or tweet it to me (@fetcheveryone) or email it (ian AT fetcheveryone.com)

some more thoughts.... Edit training entry page / mac / safari

It's all very blocky with a lot of unnecessary white space, but most confusing is that it's not possible to tell what the various elements are. Dropdowns and text boxes look the same, buttons look like headers (same here on blog page actually with the submit 'button') i.e. just a block of colour with no clue to it's function, no shadow, mouse-over, etc.

Good job!

And rest

You've been busy.

top work fella. I think it's a big improvement even if nobody else does. Feels far more modern now, crisper, and it's much better than the old mobile site on the phone.

Are they a pop group like Boy's One?

The initial release had a lot of rough edges, but you've done a lot of polishing in the last day and a bit and I think it looks very good now (on Windows 10 desktop, Samsung Galaxy 7" tab 4 and Samsung Galaxy J3 phone). That's also reflected in the shift in the poll, with more positive responses made recently.

wow you must be exhausted...perhaps run should go for a run

Thanks fetch. I use some paid sites where you get less attention and zero feedback so thanks from me for working as hard as you do and providing such timely feedback.

Still getting used to it but is is growing on me. Thanks for all your hard work ☺

Best site ever. Go Fetch!

Wrapping nicknames: What if you truncate the nickname but show the full name on mouseover?

How do you do mouseover on an iPad?

Well done - never going to be an easy task to take on. I wish I could work on a live site with such understanding customers! Did you get any sleep?

Still my favourite ever website. Write it in chalk on slate and post it to me for all I care 👍

How many pixels wide is your letterbox?

AC: sitr.us

Thanks for all your work responding to things so quickly. For me as a user mainly of the training log on iPhone it's got a lot easier to use already. In landscape on iPhone 6 I really like having the log and calendar view side by side (please keep that!!) but the calendar is a little squished as well as going outside the edge of the page - but the training log columns have some unnecessary space, especially the bin which has a huge column. Otherwise looking much better, thanks for the ad banner fix! The font size on the top menu in landscape is way too big but I guess this is part of your ongoing styles work. Thanks again, can't imagine the hours involved at the moment!

Thanks Molesy. Every day's a school day!

Ooooh! I've just logged in on my phone (Nokia Windows with whatever the default browser is) for the first time. And now I've got the full benefit of what you were trying to achieve...
Its rather brilliant

It's all getting much better, thanks for working so hard. Nice tweak for the drop-downs on the training home page

top job boss

Nice work Mr Fetch. While you're making UTMOST look pretty do you fancy giving it a bit of a overhaul? Suggestions include making promotions/relegations happen weekly to spice up the racing action a bit and maybe sort out some of the bloated leagues with loads people in them? Thanks

Re wrapping user names. Leave as is. However could you consider limiting character length on user names for new users signing up? Good job though

Good work buddy - how about "IdiotFetchUserWithReallyLongUserName" truncate + ... to max 20 chars e.g. "IdiotFetchUserWithRe..." G

You can only fit about 5 characters of a name on a line on my iPhone 5, even quite short names like McGoohan don't fit on one line...
But good work on the other stuff, it's improved loads

Couldn't agree more on Leftism, & thanks (in general, for everything!)

Using Firefox on a Mac and each entry on the training list is taking up two lines due to the first column wrapping and the scales appearing on the second line.

Chrome on Windows is the same

Molesy - that should be looking a bit better now - do a refresh. I'd set fixed percentages for the column widths - but I've taken them off - the browser knows its job far better than I do

I think I may get used to it. I always do

is it really that different? Looks and works fine for me. Great job, as ever fetch, thank you.

I like it and the work you do.

It's about time the internet recognised that screens have different shapes and sizes without the poor old programmer having to think of everything.

Getting betterer, avatars could be smaller in forum posts - Windows10 in Chrome.

Training page - month view of 8 years worth of training gets in the way at the top of the page, could be much smaller or at the bottom, need to see what I have done 'now' not what I did 'then' - keeps the scrolling down.

Hi Fetch
Using Windows 7 on a PC
I'm still seeing blogs a a long list, is this how it is going to stay?
Also, on the forum pages, the previous pages bar is still very spaced out and the comments box very big.
In general there seems to be a lot of blank white space everywhere and the fonts seems a bit odd - sort of small and fine, a bit word processory?

Already much improved on large Apple desktop screen (Firefox) and on Ipad (Safari). Yes there's a lot of white space on my big screen - but I can always shrink the window if it worries me that much!

Actually - and I may be imagining this - in some ways the desktop layout - with what seems to be a smaller type size on most text - reminds me of a much earlier version. Peeps shouted about losing that one when it made way for something different. I think we'll all cope.

Mostly Samsung tablet use, I,ll get used to it

FWIW history has shown us that you were only ever going to get one outcome in yesterday's poll, as Fetchies don't like change... however, if you repeat the poll in a week I'm sure it will be a different result. Keep up the good work Fetch

The poll was pretty pointless, wasn't it? The changes are there now and history also shows that they're in to stay so we have to either have to live with it or leave. It's nice that you've made the effort to try to make us feel like we've been included though.

I never did like the mobile site much, so the improvement to the normal site is now very much better on Windows phone (Edge). If I could find my glasses the tiny font size would be less of a problem

We're just all old and set in our ways... I like it

Thanks for moving the Clear button next to the Show me button for unread watched threads, it makes it much easier on a phone! Your attention to detail and responsiveness to moaning is amazing, fetch I still don't like the names being all weird in the forum threads, some people take up 4 lines! And then that creates big white spaces if they haven't said very much...iPhone btw

I like what you're trying to do, I'm just not quite so keen on the current output. Does that make sense?
As an aside, I thought I'd try the Mad4Purple skin, the headers are purple on my laptop, but it's still mostly red on the iPhone.

It looks good on the work computer, nice big screen. Just don't tell my boss On my forums page, would it be possible to be able to switch the position of the box of "threads I have recently contributed to" with the "new threads started today" box as I would rather have the new threads box at the top and the other box at the bottom.

It's different, things have changed. Can I still do stuff? Good. Carry on.

Looks a lot better this morning so your fettling is working

Just now, on a Windows 8.1 laptop/Chrome browser, the wrapping or whatever it's called still looks like this:

Galaxy s6 on android. So far as top diddle dandy as ever 😎

Another vote for a pic of the last poster is not needed on the forums summary on front page, but i appreciate it mirrors the pics on the blog highlights...

Also, when i view my trinaing log thru iphone, i personally like to see comments, when i view thru chrome at work, it gives me the comments.

whatever happens, we still love you and will get over it.

Its moved! thanks Mr Fetch! I am happy now

On any forum page, and the forum home page, the 'your watch list' is wrapping the number of posts in my watched list one above the other.

pitchfork ready

Actually, this morning on the PC it looks pretty good so I think the tinkering is paying off.

My main issue with the changes relates to the mobile view. I avoided the mobile version of the site when you set that up and continued to view the full site on my mobile (Windows Phone). However now, because you have gone to the responsive design I am, I think, forced to go with that view. That wouldn't be so bad I suppose but I don't think it looks as good as the 'full' site.

For instance - on the full site, the Route Pic of the Day has been expanded across the screen - that looks lovely! (I'm not just saying that because it's my pic today.) On the mobile one, it's trimmed at each side. Even holding the phone in landscape format leaves bits cut off. You can't 'pinch' it smaller to fit either, though you can zoom in.

Waited to vote til this morning, issues seem resolved and now looks good on iPad & iPhone - Safari, and Mac desktop - Firefox. Will check Mac laptop later today. Once the MOTM banner with the *tiny* pic had disappeared it looked a whole lot better.

what are these wee gadgets that you talk about? I need to wind up my steam driven lap top

I agree strongly with McG's comments above. The site appears most like the old version on my Ipad. On my Windows10 laptop is it spare and the colour scheme different (Nigeria is distinctly lacking in green) and on my Android phone in Chrome browser it is like the mobile site when I want to see the desktop version. One of the things I love about Fetch is that almost everything was visible and accessible from one-click on one screen, even on my phone. I think having everything in hidden drop-down menus reduces the user-friendliness of the site, and new users will miss a lot of the functionality that is there. Even as an experienced user I am using less of the site than I did before - there simply isn't the same level of cohesive, addictive, connectedness that keeps me on here far too much of the time.

Hold on, what am I saying, these changes are great!

from the iphone the drop down box looks like 3 little white blocks, part of the design.... and isn't totally obvious as a drop down... which is a shame, as that's where all the good stuff is kept!!

You're awesome. You worked really hard yesterday, walked the dogs, looked after my boy after school, got the dinner warming up whilst I was fetching people from the airport. held my hand at 1am when I was having a moment, got up with me when I realised all my treatment couch stuff was still wet in the washing machine, got up at 5am today and drove up North so you could be with your boy on a school trip. Awesome. xx
That's my feedback.

Hi Fetch, I really like the new layout, it seems a lot "cleaner". The only issue I've seen is that on the mobile version (Huawei Honor 7, Android 6.0) the blogs I have read no longer have a green tick (or any indication that I've read them). Works fine if I switch to desktop. Thanks for all the hard work!

he did all that, and fixed the internet!!! whaddaguy!!!

The menu in the red is very difficult to read with the black lettering. If the lettering could be lighter colour it would make it easier to read.

some of the colour combinations are tricky (black writing on red background for example) and some the numbers going onto multiple lines for numbers over 10 of unread posts on threads you are watching is a bit odd. But functions fine and doesnt require any extra thinking to navigate generally, so im sure i will adapt to the changes otherwise. Thanks for all your hard work in making our site the best in the business. windows 10 chrome on the PC

ps the numbers issue is on the menu left had side of the screen when on a forum in the box titled "on your watch list"

I've put a screenshot in the gallery of the sub-menu drop down (black text) dropping down behind the text already on the page. This makes it sometimes impossible to click on one of the menu choices if there's a link sat on top of it as the click takes you to the 'top' link. On Android.

that is a much better color combo thanks

FYI

I want to "Like" (love, hug?) KatieB's comment KatieB 12:40pm, 16th Jun 2016 above... that's all. G

I like it.

Intial vote was poor but getting used to it already!

The search box where you add location for race finder is too small now, both on ipad and PC.

the colour-combination is terrible (i.e. the minor panels are not black/unreadable) in the Pantherz scheme using Firefox

Still a shed load of white space on either side strikes me as wasted real estate. Win 10, Chrome, 1920 resolution screen, 100% zoom. Looks like it is still set for 1024 screens?

That aside, a slight niggle with the blog entry which keeps jerking as the last backed up box redraws. I guess the div is resizing each time it is update which makes the rest of the page jerk up and down briefly.

The MOTM nominees page doesn't seem to be adaptive on iPhone (although you've probably got almost 2 weeks before most people will look at that page again ;-))

I really don't like the amount of scrolling required to read blogs. A good half of the page is taken up with the Show me/ Clear line, the back to blogs line, the 'add this blogger to your favourites' line... It's too waffly, just not crisp enough. I also used to be able to see a lot more blogger avatars and titles in the old format, but now I seem to have to scroll non-stop (on the LG android phone, the chromebook, and laptop - it's not a bug, it's the new design.:-() Too much scrolling! #firstworldproblems

It's much better, easier to navigate and better to read

I think it is a sign of the times, that the desktop user is being marginalised. The huge amount of white space makes the website less usable, but as a minority I will have to put up with it, or buy a tablet.

On my iPhone 6 I'm mostly looking to edit training that has been uploaded from Garmin and look at my training log in overview. I used the desktop site view for this and find the mobile site makes for more clicks and scrolling and I can't zoom out to get the lovely desktop overview of the training log. Additionally in vertical I can't access the training log because that option is behind the ad banner. Please let me continue to request the desktop site - the change has slowed me down and taken away the views I use!!

It's all horrible. I think I'll go and eat worms.

I need 2 votes: one for each screen...

Where's the option for Doggy McDogface?

It's a bit early to say, changes takes some getting used to. My initial impression is that I like it on my ipad, not sure on my phone, I have to hold the phone horizontally for it to fit.

Which phone have you got B? I can look up what resolution it is, and try to tune any pages that are particularly bad for you.

I'm sorry, my edge browser at home looks less friendly than the IE 11 at work

Could you be more specific?

Anything more specific?

Fetch, I don't like it, seems too much white space.

Where?

I've taken another look on my phone and it is fine vertically now. I just beed to get used to the changes, but I like the look and it gives me more stuff on my phone e.g. polls, without having to change sites.

Viewing in safari - not vry ken but might adjust to it. Things like the numbers of posts in threads I am watching being displayed in a weird vertical way

1
2
3
instead of as

123

are brave from a user engagement point of view.

I've just made that a bit wider. Is it still doing it?

Wrapping randomly on Windows phone. Eg Last e of dog face, ou of you.

That seems to be a browser-specific issue. I'm still reading up on that.

Only 4 blogs visible, avatars too big on Windows

Apple hardware, Firefox on desktop, safari on iPad and iphone: prob best on iPad so far - deals with keypad and various text boxes better than previously, so yeah it's 'clearer'. Wasn't keen on the look on my desktop earlier but I need to check that and my phone again. Am I automatically getting the phone friendly version - is that part of the new deal? As I don't see a 'view on desktop/ mobile option any more.

Looking at it on firefox on my laptop, I don't like it, it looks blocky and agree with others too much white space.

The previous incarnation was easier on the eye.

no difference on iPhone.
on safari on iMac what Winded said, notifications reading vertically which is horrid. also page numbers on thread just look too spread out/rounded

Now viewing on my iPhone. The old version let me use the desktop version rather than have to use a mobile version - that is a backwards thing. I often find sites difficult to use in mobile versions because of difficulty in resizing text and images.

Only thing I've spotted so far that isn't very user friendly is the main Blogs page.
It's just a list and the titles are getting lost in a very big box (Auto-sized to the avatar? Which I think is unnecessary)
Slightly too many font sizes about the place for my liking.

On the forums I have lost the bit highlighting today's new threads, I have checked settings and it's on so should be seeing it. Viewing on iPad.

And looking at the blog page, I can only see four blogs before I have to start scrolling down to find more. (I'm reading in landscape) I preferred the previous layout where I could see loads of blogs at a glance and less scrolling required.

In normal zoom on the laptop I have FIVE pages of scrolling to see all the blog titles.
*This* I don't like!

Sorry; missed question as distracted. Yes, it is still doing it. More than one digit reads vertically.

Like the spaces between forum posts

Found the new threads for today right down at the bottom of the forum page on the right.

Just had a peek on the 'phone, and once you get used to the way in which things have been re-structured I like it.
It's a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact, if that's any use to you

Month navigator on Your Log
On the PC takes up the whole page and it's something that I'll look at when I want to (so at the bottom of the log would be better IMO)
I'm more interested in the individual sessions (as they are what I'll edit) so should be at the top (again IMO)

You're on the right tracks. I like it.

To just focus one area, on mobile the forum view is back to the issue you solved in the mdot version - tiny font that is hard to read with no space around for finger tapping. Font needs to be at least 50% bigger (always has!) with good padding on all four sides. Like the Date

Popularity

Price part here: ui-cloud.com

Also, pages seem to suffer from double titles (e.g. Forum page has title of Forum and then sub title of Forum).

It looks just fine in Safari on iPad, and on desktop apart from there being more white space on left and right than I recall being there before.
However on my mobile phone (with Chrome on HTC One M7) there's a problem with sub menus appearing vertically down the page, rather than across the yellow bar, on all pages.

Side bars much wider, text area narrower meaning I can't read some pages without zooming in to 125% e.g. forum pages.

soz - laptop using Chrome

On my PC the text seems a lot lighter and almost blurry. I didn't need to wear my specs to Fetch yesterday, I do today. Also issues with names/text being wrapped and hard to read on several pages e.g. UTMOST league tables.

Post count on the 'posts on my watch list' notification (on Chromebook, haven't looked on my laptop)the numbers are doing that odd wrapping thing ie
1
1
instead of 11.

Also don't like the added space on the training log page - it's *too* spacious and I prefer clear gridlines like in the olden days.:-(

Don't like it. Looks like it's trying too hard to be a mobile internet page. Also the relocation of the day's new threads is silly - the point was to highlight them, not sideline them.

The drop-down sub-menu comes up behind other text on the page rather than pushing it down - e.g. on this page, the white arrow next to Blogs which gives me the options of Your Blog, Add Entry, On This Day and Favourites drops these options behind the Show Me and Clear buttons for watched threads and the line which says fetcheveryone - blog.

This happens on all pages, not just blogs.

Sorry, me again - where's the summary of running mileage by month since I joined Fetch which used to be at the top of the training log?

I don't like it, but then I don't really like change... :). The blog highlight thing is probably in a better place - I always forget to highlight them once I've read all the way down to the comments.
I've lost the 'today's threads' - reading up a couple of comments, I guess they must be still there, but I quite like them at the top.

Really hard to see forum on iPhone with both classic and mobile app. Can't get back to forum heading by clicking on top left Forum button after. Layouts of topics and posters all staggered untidily

number problem with me too on Windows 10 running chrome
1
1
1

Realised now it's not changed on my phone as I'm using the mobile version...

Um, I will get used to it I'm sure but for the moment:
The front page is very *white*, I miss the colours, they were part of what made this Fetch.
Blog home page (having moved from a table to a list) means an awful lot of scrolling where I used to do less.

Safari on iPad which is how I use the site 95% of the time.

On the training page, I can't see the dates as it's black writing in a dark grey box; the same for number of views on a blog. I'm on Safari on a laptop and mobile phone

I'm getting used to it already

Can you kill http://www.fetcheveryone.com/forum__59090__site_all_gone_strange_watch_have_you_got_site_all_gone_strange ?

blogs and forums - please can we exclude the avatars or make them the same height as the rows - they take up too much room and I need to scroll a lot on my laptop, it makes me queasy.

Desktpo version on laptop using Chrome. Nigeria skin is not effective although selected. Watched threads count in double figures are wrapping into two rows, i.e.
2
o
instead of 20

Mundane thread - IDs squashed up and icons a bit outside the box. Screen grab:
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/gallery-showphoto.php?id=82799

IM - do you mean lists of blogs, and lists of threads? Or individual blogs, or individual threads? And it would be really useful to see a screenshot, just in case there's some other issue that's making the page come out wrong. Ta.

McG - what are you browsing on?

Blogs all on a list
On Forum pages, comments box is massive and previous page numbers are really spaced out
Text seems smaller on Forum home page
Avatars on bottom of screen split across 2 lines
These new looms will put us all out of work, smash them, smash them all

Android phone. Names on the side bar are cut off and finished on the next line. You are now to be know as
fetchevery
one

As mentioned below...
1) Forum threads and blogs. 2) Laptop (seems fine on iPhone). 3) The text is not being justified, words are being split between lines. Screen Grab:

The name wrapping is an interesting one to solve. If I prevent any kind of wrapping, then MrExtremelyLongNameWithNoBreaks will force that column to go really wide. I can look at making the names appear *above* the posts on a narrow screen. That might be workable.

IE11

McG - is that the whole of the screenshot, or just a snippet of it?

I think part of the prob is where you have an image on the screen - to accommodate it, it's squashing the other stuff up

That was just the ensquishenated area

(Oh and Windows 7 PC)

I can't - I have two screens and the screen shot saves both. For other Windows10 reasons I can't access paint or anything to crop it. I can only see 4 blogs on the blog screen on my laptop.

Training log - everything is in one long page - ie the planned sessions and summary are now horizontal at the bottom rather than to the right. This means scrolling down. Chrome - PC. Also in the forum, the watch list box, when you are looking at a thread, the 'clear these' isn't working.

Page : Your Blog
Browser : Firefox on a Laptop
Problem : Whole words don't wrap around

My skin problem seems better now, but not quite as I remembered it.

In fact all my pages are now very long in layout - is this the point? The blogs one seems to go on forever

Somer skin is giving blog titles in black on a very dark grey background (so on this very page, immediately below where I'm typing, I can only just read Poised). Firefox, Win 7

I thought I had ended up on the mobile site even though I am on a desktop (using internet explorer). The blog page appears to be 'school cloakroom style' without the option to switch to 'normal' view

Forum home page keeps flipping from one style to another. Keep expecting to hear my opticians voice...

Oh, PC Windows 7 ?

Is there an option to have the desktop version on a mobile?

1) All pages (I think?). 2) Laptop and Mobile. 3) In Redmond skin, the seven clickable options in the footer (Feedback, About Us, etc) has white text on a very pale blue background.

And speaking of Carp - here's what her pic has done on the 700 thread:
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/gallery-showphoto.php?id=82804

Seems like pics have a squashing effect

Same as my earlier comment for 1 and 2.
Problem : The nigeria skin isn't very green anymore :-/

It's, like, different

McG - is that pic looking any narrower now?
BL - try doing a refresh - I've just reinstated some of the green. I hadn't gotten around to putting the changes into the skins, but I'm working through them.

I've just used my android phone for the first time since the changes (desktop version on Chrome) and I don't like it at all. No avatars on threads, no last post by in thread list. Lots of drop down menus to navigate anywhere, I much prefer just being able to touch the menu buttons. That seems much more intuitive and slicker. Sorry to be change-phobic

I'm with Dio. I really don't like having to navigate using so many drop-down menus to get anywhere and I miss the last post by in the forum. A lot of scrolling down to get anywhere is a bit irritating.

I finally found my watch list at the bottom of the forums page, but I prefer it at the top as they're my commonly used threads, otherwise I have to scroll down for about a year! (iPhone)

This isn't an improvement. It's like Fetch for muppets

Windows 10, Chrome, laptop
On the training log page, the final column of the main training log used to be configurable, eg Notes, Kit, Terrain, Comments, Splits etc. These options were along the top of the log and you clicked the one you wanted - they have disappeared and you can no longer change the column.

Gus - do you know what your screen resolution is? If you are browsing with a small window (i.e. less than 640px wide, it will start reducing the elements on the page).

Icemaiden - there's now an option to turn off the avatars on the blog list.

FreshStart - can I use that in future marketing campaigns?
Fleecio - yeah, I'm gonna do something about that.

If I go to System, Display it says 100%(Recommended) - where do I see number of pixels ?

Carp - thinking about it, it's probably better to keep last poster, rather than thread creator, when the page gets smaller. I'll see if I can change that.

Gus - is the browser window filling the page?

Yep, the screen was fixed by that

On Glasses View of an activity, then the comments box ( on left of the map ) is not scrollable, so not seeing all the comments and splits etc.

Found my screen resolution 1366 * 768 (Recommended)
No, the site is not filling the full width of the browser page, got white bars down both sides, always have had.

Gus - is there any chance you can send me a screenshot?

or post one in the gallery?

Using Redmond on my iPhone the Feedback/about us etc bits are light text on white background so almost illegible. But what I mostly want to know is where have the avatars gone? I can't see them...

On the forum pages I mean, can see them on blogs pages

email sent

Fetch - Re your comment on my photo of the text splitting over lines... it's not just a problem on Firefox, as I don't use it! I'm on IE11.

Fleecio - I've adjusted the forum now so that the new posts will snap to the top of the page when you're on a phone, but will be on the right when you're on a desktop. I took the decision to take the avatars off the forum for small screens as an exercise in reducing the amount of data that the page uses when it gets downloaded. But I think I'll put them back for now.

Nelly - ok, I'll have another look at that.
Gus - ta

Fleecoteric - avatars are back on the squidged up version of the forum.
Carp - I've adjusted the main forum page so that the squidged version shows last poster rather than creator.

IE 11, desktop blog pages and blog title page, which is a long list, full page width

Gus - there's a little drop-down above the notes column, that allows you to change the visible columns.

snogard - sorry, can you explain that in a bit more detail? I'm not quite understanding.

Forum is nice without avatars, blogs - I've only got 9 in my view, rows not so narrow as forum.

On the main forum page the different icons which showed which sub-forum a thread was in have gone.... unless I swap tabs, do something else for a while and then come back and then they have appeared!
Windows 7 desktop, chrome.

Also when viewing a sub-forum, there is no way of identifying which one you are in, apart from the address bar?

No probs, just an observation - because you've made it all responsive (well done - HTML5? Or just well structured CSS?) it resizes as my browser gets smaller, which makes it harder for me to hide at work. Any chance of a "boss button"?! (That's a joke, btw - responsive is great. ) G

Liking the luck and feel. Feels far crisper.
One thing I don't like is that if you hove over the main menu when it opens up a sub-menus it shifts the whole screen up and down. If you move your mouse across menu items it looks like its on springs (safari, MacOS)

forgot to say, this only seems to be on the home page. On the others I've checked the submenu bar is always there and the sub-menus expand into this.

I've seen 3 people with the same new avatar, so far, and it's sideways.

These people are:- MGoohan, LazyDaisy and ChunkyWizard.

I am on my laptop.

I don't like the blog page - too much wasted space - I preferred having three (or however many it was) to a line in small boxes. (This is the same on both chromebook and Android phone.)

http://www.fetcheveryone.com/gallery-showphoto.php?id=82810
MacBook Pro 10.11.5 Safari 9.1.1
The name your route option covers the splits on the activity page.

Also, the text being entered here looks massive compared to the rest of the blog comments, a bit odd.

StuHolmes - I've made the sub-forums go a bit bold now - not the best solution, but a start.
Andy - the covered splits should now be visible.
AR - I'm looking into that - the system makes the small avatars from big avatars when it can't find a suitable file - I think it's copying the wrong image.
flanker and H(G) - thank goodness you arrived

postieboy - click the bars.

I suppose there's no point saying: "If it ain't broke, please don't keep trying to fix it"?

You might benefit from reading my earlier blogs about this update.

Thanks Fetch. This is going to take a bit of getting used to - I almost always access on my phone and I like having the desktop version on my phone.

On the main Race page, there is a Race Predictor box where you fill in time of a recent race and it should give equivalent times over other distances. When you click Calculate, all it's doing is taking you to a separate Race Predictor page http://www.fetcheveryone.com/training-calculators-racetimes.php where you have to key in the details again ( which then works ok )

Fixed that for you Gus.

Much too big, i'm forever scrolling. It takes two lines to print 20 in the number of unread posts on a watch list item. It looks like this

I've just made that a bit wider. Is it still doing it?

Thanks. Another minor one :-
On Race Standards page, the left hand 2 columns of the 2016 Qualifying Performances box ( 2nd box down right hand side ) are not wide enough and therefore the headings ( "Time" and "Score" ) and the times themselves are wrapping onto a 2nd line

Another couple of very minor ones :-
On Conquercise pages there is a common banner across the top with 3 red boxes : Explored, Annual, Owned. The Explored one is not wide enough and the word is being split and wrapped onto new line.
On the Training League pages your own entry used to be highlighted in red ( all others in white ), no longer happening. May be a design decision ?

I'm using Firefox on Windows 10 home Desktop, using the default Fetch skin -

Blog page -

I don't like the long list of blogs. I can see only the 1st 3 or 4 then have to scroll down a long way to see earlier blogs. The grid display was much easier to see who had written a blog. Is the time of posting really required?

"Add Training" page -

Far too much white space which is a huge waste of screen causing unnecessary scrolling.

In the "Activity" box, the activity takes up only a 1/4 - 1/3rd of the box, a waste of space.
On the "Duration" (time) line, the boxes are too spread apart to see the time all in one look. They are now so far apart that the eyes can't focus on them all in one go, so one has to look first at "hh" then "mm" and finally "ss".
In "Route and distance" there are several large data boxes to hold just a couple of characters. Make the boxes smaller and the distance and ascent/descent boxes can go on the same line, the same with "road" & "flat", which means that only 3 lines instead of 5 are used. In the "Kit list" the last 4 columns are too scrunched up forcing words and 3-digit numbers to take several lines which is very odd and difficult to look at.
The "notes" box is now too narrow, so that when I import a Garmin run, the data for each mile spills over and now take up 2 lines instead of one, making it difficult to pick out information.

I haven't tried every other page, but most of those I have looked at seem alright.

Works laptop, IE-so-old-its-no-longer-supported, the headers are downwards and not along the page http://www.fetcheveryone.com/gallery-showphoto.php?id=82817 The red also looks very brown, but only on the work machine, iPad is ok.

Hmm, lots of empty space especially in the training log 'edit training' area.

I will try a different skin though, see if I can reduce the glare.
Probably already mentioned, but the table headings on the 'Weight Log' page are squashed/not wrapping properly, as are the leaderboard tables on the home page for FetchPoint.
Personally don't like it, but I'm sure in a week or so we will have all forgotten what has changed!
Thank you though for your work on improving the site for everyone!
Device- Laptop
Browser- erm... Chrome, Windows 10.
Skin- currently default but going to have a play with that.

Can I also add- Training plan? It looks squashed somehow and when you click on a date to add/update a session the background box is huge, but the text box is the same as before. Thank you.

I can't seem to find how to view the Weekly, Monthly & Yearly comparison graphs that used to be accessible from an icon top left of the Month Navigator on the Training Log.

This morning, on my Android phone using the mobile version, one post on the 700 thread is doing that very narrow thing - no avatar box visible, and no more than a couple of words per line. All the other posts are fine and look normal.
Don't like the white writing for my favourites on the blog page :-(. Sorry.

How MASSIVE are the HEADPHONES? Can we have a picture?

I've stuck one in. They're not as big as I'd like. They're foamy, which I don't really like. But they're bluetooth, which I do.

good luck going live

Right - I'll get back to work then so you can get on with it:);)

*scratches head... that's nice dear.....

You just like playing don't you?

You don't look like a tool to me. X

x

I'm guessing you've pressed the button now, all gone a bit Pete Tong

Eek, there's stuff at the top and then the rest of it is marooned at the bottom with a huge weird gap in the middle...

Ahh, looking better already

Gaaaarrrgh!

I liked it very much when my tablet view was the same as my computer. Please can we have a choice. I don't want to have to go back to being confined in the corner of the room

X back atacha
Oh, you meant Katie.
Oh what the heck, X anyway

I think it needs some tweaking. It's all gone a bit vertical on my laptop but i'm typing this in a tiny box. edit: the box is bigger now And the "burger menu" is opening on each new page. And it's orphaning words.

Word orphans??? Jeez. Call the Red Cross!
X (for the orphans)

The gap has gone, phew
But people's names are now weird and where are the unread posts notifications?

Blogs page is ok now but the forum looks scary on my phone

Ummm, the Leftfield thing is about a year old, and is a pale shadow of former glories. As for the site, it'll be nice when it's finished.

Ok, make that a year and seven days I'm so current.

Is this a cunning ruse to get us off fetch and doing some actual work?

The text boxes in the forum are ok now but names are squashed and are we not getting avatars in the forum now?

Can we have some text justifying back please? Currently words are broken across lines and it makes it a lot harder to read (and looks rubbish).

And I've lost my "New Threads" list in the forum, even though the setting is still "on"? Thanks.

New Threads are over on the right.

Redmond skin seems more 'red' than it used to.

Cheers Fetch, I need some new *glasses*
I agree with Angus, less Red more Navy please.

Galaxy a3. I'm missing the first training log page with the overview table with mileage by month and year that I can choose which month to dip into. I find that my biggest motivator so please can we keep it.

In the "Chat" polls category!?!?

Don't want to boast but I have a TomTom, a Garmin and a Polar. It only let me vote once though

It's moved now. Must be nice, having an *edit* facility...:-)

Anyone who creates a poll can change its category

Can you have a word with Garmin and sort out Garmin connect whilst you're improving things...?

What's the problem?

It occasionally decides you can't access your activities for random lengths of time. Awfully helpful. Luckily it still imports to fetch so I can play here instead!

Fantastic running, well done

Speedy!

Excellent.

Whoop!

well done you....an excellent days work and pls poke me next year when entries open

That's brilliant- really well done

Sub 45 did someone say?! Argh!!!!!

Well, how about that, woo hoo

PeeeeeBeeeee

Hmmm, Okay. I think you might have sold me this, especially on the downhill at mile 5.

That's a mighty shiny Peeb x

**

Sorry, meant

If they've really managed to work out a way to ensure that it's actually the late entrants that miss out on medals as opposed to the late finishers, then that's a marketable formula. I'm afraid my cynical bastard gene just started shouting!
Meanwhile, imagine the mayhem that could be caused if we all just casually phoned our local race organisers claiming to be the brains behind one of the most popular fitness-based social media sites in the country and asking for free entries. Outrageous
Great PeeBeeee though, hope you did the dance...........

I was thinking it was to do with David Bedford. Nice PB though.

This is not a professional review, but my opinion! What a fab race! loved the early start as I hate running in the heat, so that was my main reason for entering whilst it was not a pb for me it was the best I have run for years.
Positives from the run was, easy to park, clear number collection and bag drop off, plenty of toilets, although there were queues as they were unisex they went down quickly, the early start, wide closed roads so no congestion, flat (ish) course, chip timing available straight after the finish.
Negatives, no signs from the parking to the start area (we relied on following someone else!) and the queues at the end for the medal, banana etc that said there was plenty and we all queued like good brits!!!
Definitely one for the diary next year and I will be recommending it as a club champs

Oooh, that's a pretty huge PB for a 10K. Well done. I was thinking as the blog began that you were starting too quickly and were going to suffer later, but loving your work. Nice 6:xx action at the end - a negative split - 22:11 to 21:58? Now that's the way to pace a race. G

Awesome stuff. Your 5k and HM PBs are within a few seconds of mine, but your 10k time is now well over 3 minutes better.

Excellent time - well done! I'm looking for a fast road 10k... maybe next year?

It works Thank you.

tumbleweed...........

Tough crowd today

Tom Tom? Don't they do the car GPS thingies rather than proper running stuff?

(I'm trying to provoke a reaction for you.... ;-))

I can't hear you, I'm wearing MASSIVE HEADPHONES!

Hell yeah!

Hell yeah?

After 3 consecutive Garmin GPS watches, I have just bought a TomTom Spark GPS Heart Monitor watch. Tried the upload to Fetch function and it worked without any problems. Thanks you Mr. Fetch.