Transgender Athletes

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Aug 2019
11:33am, 14 Aug 2019
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Jovi Runner
So you can take banned substances as long as it's part of your transition medical programme - surely that is wide open for abuse by unscrupulous athletes? Please note I am not accusing genuinelly transgender athletes (although I still think advantages persist even with lwoered testosterone) but as amply demonstarated in cycling & tennis athletes even at the highest level have been known to suddenly acquire"conditions" if it means they can take drugs.
Aug 2019
11:39am, 14 Aug 2019
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Velociraptor
The WSER is not obliged to comply with IOC rules and testosterone measurement doesn't form part of the assessment.

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Aug 2019
12:13pm, 14 Aug 2019
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Jovi Runner
So, in theory it's OK to run any old qualifying race so you qualify for Western States & that's OK. That seems grossly unfair to female athletes.
Aug 2019
12:15pm, 14 Aug 2019
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Jovi Runner
& why does fairness to Grace override fairness to the protected female category. Again, one persons fairness is usurping the 000's of others.
Aug 2019
12:18pm, 14 Aug 2019
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Jovi Runner
I find the pronoun cis hugely offensive. Why am I regarded as a horrible person for insisting I do not want to be called by that but those transitioning seem to be able to appear to insist on their pronouns (I am not referrign to anyone here who has never insisted I sue any words but referring to media cases where people have been repreimanded for using the wrong pronoun) being used without any recourse. That whole western states policy stinks IMO.
Aug 2019
12:23pm, 14 Aug 2019
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Bazoaxe
I think we need to accept that there is no answer to this which will cover all bases appropriately.
SPR
Aug 2019
12:32pm, 14 Aug 2019
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SPR
Cisgender - denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.

I don't see the issue it's just the opposite of transgender.

What's the issue?
Aug 2019
12:37pm, 14 Aug 2019
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Raemond
It upsets Jovio's classical sensibilities because it's 'not a real word,' or something.
Aug 2019
12:51pm, 14 Aug 2019
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Velociraptor
"Cisgender" has only entered general usage recently and it would be naïve to expect everyone just to smile sweetly and accept it. I'm totally comfortable with its use in legal, medical, and technical contexts, but in everyday life instinct is, "Don't go sticking a new label on me now."
Aug 2019
12:56pm, 14 Aug 2019
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ThorntonRunner
In discussing transgender issues I find it useful, but again, would never use it in general conversation.

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