Dec 2019
8:42am, 14 Dec 2019
9,320 posts
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rf_fozzy
Mike - that's a big assumption. What younger voters (I was going to say, like me, but I'm not that young any more) want *is* radical change about the things that are going to affect them: Housing, Climate Change, Public transport, careers in an automating landscape, how are we going to pay for social care in 10 years (when they'll be supporting elderly relatives), etc. If you're going to argue that these are "Old Labour" and therefore should be ignored, then younger voters (and I'll include myself in this here) and say you are completely barking mad. These are the issues facing the country and Brexit and even Scottish Independence are just deliberate distractions from having to concentrate on these big issues. The approach of Corbyn was wrong - the narrow sect at the top, the refusal to listen to criticism and the predisposition to shout anyone down who doesn't agree and of course the refusal to deal properly with the antisemitiism problems. These need dealing with of course. If I had one criticism of the policy platform it was too much too fast and so it became abstract and unbelievable, dial it down by 50% and it's probably reasonable. And you can throw in rejoining the EU to the policy platform for 2024. |
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Dec 2019
8:44am, 14 Dec 2019
9,321 posts
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rf_fozzy
BTW, does the FTPA mean we're now stuck with December elections? Because if we're going to return to May elections and keep the FTPA then it'll either have to be May 2024 or May 2025? The former is, of course, *only* 4.5 years away...(silver linings...) |
Dec 2019
8:47am, 14 Dec 2019
1,502 posts
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um
Pothunter - I think William's the lowest this time, although he asked for no-one to vote for him. swlondoner.co.uk There is a story on the Torygraph web site, but it's behind their paywall (shock, horror, 'we don't like that' ), so I can't confirm. But looks like it from the little bit of text that google matches. |
Dec 2019
8:53am, 14 Dec 2019
315 posts
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Non-runner
I expect that the FTPA will be abolished during this parliament (it was a feature of the coalition after all) and the long postponed boundary changes would also be easier to implement, should they choose.
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Dec 2019
9:20am, 14 Dec 2019
6,170 posts
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Dooogs
Fozzy - a 2024 campaign to rejoin the EU is one issue I'm really torn on. I desperately want us to rejoin the EU (I desperately wanted us not to leave!) - but I do worry that it may be a sure-fire vote-loser in 20245. Tactically, it may be one where we have to wait for the hard Brexit shitshow to rumble along for 6-8 years before the electorate come around to the idea... |
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Dec 2019
9:24am, 14 Dec 2019
6,171 posts
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Dooogs
PS Wikipedia thinks May 2024 for the next GE, assuming that the FTPA isn't repealed... en.m.wikipedia.org |
Dec 2019
9:40am, 14 Dec 2019
31,792 posts
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LindsD
Would the EU want us back?
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Dec 2019
9:43am, 14 Dec 2019
760 posts
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Ally-C
Imho we’ll have this government for 10 years, the margin of victory was too big to close in one parliament.
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Dec 2019
9:51am, 14 Dec 2019
1,400 posts
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Weean
We'll probably be allowed back into the EU in exchange for Gibraltar.
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Dec 2019
10:06am, 14 Dec 2019
22,959 posts
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Sushi.
And in exchange for hiveng up the £
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