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Mar 2022
9:20pm, 6 Mar 2022
3,347 posts
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STOOSH
At the time of my first sub 3.15 ( 3.07 ) i'd run a 1.23 half although had been running 1.25-30 halfs for a couple of years by then but at the time i didn't train or perform well at marathons previous to then.
I'm now a hasbeen or neverbeen holding onto false hope of a sub 3.15 in May 
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Mar 2022
9:21pm, 6 Mar 2022
17,993 posts
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KinkyS
I'm a very good converter - my first sub 3:15 was a Spring marathon off the back of a 1:32 Autumn half and I've never run sub-40 for 10k (PB 40:05).
I'm the opposite to Curly though - sub 3:15 was way easier for me than sub 1:30 (which I only did once and it was 1:29:57!).
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Mar 2022
9:22pm, 6 Mar 2022
13,596 posts
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chunkywizard
I think halfs are way easier to get right and go fast. I’ve done 1:28 but I’ve never been sub 3:15, but then I’ve only run 4 marathons and I must have run 4/5 times that in HMs. Mara PB is 3:19. (Not the most positive post but Maras are hard!)
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Mar 2022
9:23pm, 6 Mar 2022
17,994 posts
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KinkyS
I *was* a good converter 🤣 These days I convert very slow fell races into bottles of beer!
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Mar 2022
9:38pm, 6 Mar 2022
111 posts
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Mr. Grumpy
I just scraped under 1:30 on a HM today, and was hoping that it would convert to a sub 3:15 next month. The last few posts don’t give me much encouragement though. I should be on for a big PB, but I suspect I’ll fall a bit short this time.
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Mar 2022
9:51pm, 6 Mar 2022
17,248 posts
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larkim
A HM mid marathon prep isn't the same as a HM best though. I ran 3:14 and pb'd at HM shortly afterwards at 1:26. I don't think I'd gone faster than 1:28 when I ran 3:14, *but* I did run 38:45ish for a 10k in the marathon build up.
If you can run sub 90 during a marathon build up and your MP runs have gone ok at sub 3:15 pace then there's no reason to not target sub 3:15 on race day; but it might depend on the day whether you get it right.
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Mar 2022
10:03pm, 6 Mar 2022
42 posts
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anyonebutmatt
Thanks all, that’s really useful. I’ve been training towards a 3.20 in Brighton next month with the idea of 3.15 in the Autumn. Having run a sub 1.32 this morning I was seeing what kind of ball park that puts me in. I don’t think my plan has changed but I’m a lot more confident about the 3.20 now and I’ll try to get closer to 1.30 by the Autumn.
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Mar 2022
10:22pm, 6 Mar 2022
834 posts
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riggys99
I work on a conversion rate of double the half and add 5 minutes
Nov 2019 marathon Pb 3:05:51 half Pb in aug 1:30:34
April 2019 marathon 3:13:13 half marathon in March 1:34.01
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Mar 2022
10:37pm, 6 Mar 2022
5,399 posts
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Windsor Wool
You see ^. It can be done and it’s very specific!
Neither Matt or the Grump should write themselves off. Prepare yourself for marathon and run the best race you can.
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Mar 2022
10:40pm, 6 Mar 2022
112 posts
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Mr. Grumpy
Good point about the different HM’s Larkim - It’s something that I hadn’t given any thought to I suppose.
My previous HM PB was from the back end of 2019, the year that I started putting more structure into my training and everything. I’m still rusty from the restrictions with COVID, but was hoping for a new set of PB’s this year, so at least the first one’s out of the way. Looking forward to a proper go at one in Manchester in May.
Good luck on your own attempt anyonebutmatt
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