The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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Nov 2006
12:56pm, 22 Nov 2006
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360°
Well, everyone else seems to have one.<br><br>Bit about me - I've run 2 marathons (both in 2006) in 3:44 and 3:28. I'm now looking to get under 3:15 at FLM in 2007.<br><br>I've followed Hal Higdon schedules for both marathons. However, training didn't go to plan in either as I got flu for one and was out injured for a month for the other. As a result I went into both races feeling a bit underprepared.<br><br>A few things I need to sort out to get under 3:15 I think:<br><br>1) I ran out of legs in both marathons around the 20/22 mile mark;<br>2) I've had training disrupted;<br>3) I've had insufficient long runs - as a result of 2), but also due to the training programmes.<br>4) I'm looking at another HH schedule for FLM, but haven't decided yet.<br><br>So, anyone else in the same boat?
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Nov 2006
1:01pm, 22 Nov 2006
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controversial
well i am aiming for a sub 3:15 next year and like you i have done 3:53, 3:34 and 3:28 this year ... so really interested in any usefull information!
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Nov 2006
1:06pm, 22 Nov 2006
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KinkyS
I'm glad someone finally started one of these - I've been feeling all left out! I ran 3:59 in 2004, 3:38 in 2005 and 3:27 in 2006. Hoping for a similar improvement at FLM 2007... Trainingwise I've used RW 4, 3:45 and 3:30 plans in the past. I've looked at HH for this time around, most likely the Advanced II since my weakness is speed rather than endurance so I need the two speed sessions a week. However, I'm likely to adapt it quite a bit since I can't do hills (there aren't any!), and I don't want to only do 800m intervals, I like variety more in the style of the RW speed sessions. I also like my long runs, so 3x20 isn't going to keep me happy... |
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Nov 2006
1:16pm, 22 Nov 2006
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360°
Hurrah, it's not just me then. I was looking at the Advanced II plan too Katie. I like the HH plans, but like you, need/want more long runs. If I do this schedule I'll be cutting and pasting sessions a fair bit too. I've got plenty of hills to choose from though, so I'll have a bit of variety for speed sessions. With your 10k pb controversial, you could be closer to sub 3 than 3:15. That's an impressive time. |
Nov 2006
1:30pm, 22 Nov 2006
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B Rubble
I'm looking to do 3.15 after doing 3.21 and 3.23. First marathon was by following the RW sub 3.15 then I did a similar plan but had to drop some of the training for races. Aim to get back on track 1 January ready for Paris (fancy doing some pacing with the yellow balloon men Controversial?). I think my main mistake 2nd time around was lack of long runs which meant burn out in last few miles. |
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Nov 2006
1:36pm, 22 Nov 2006
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controversial
never done any pacing but i have heard it is a bit of a pain in the rrr  by the way what are those training plans from HH?
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Nov 2006
1:37pm, 22 Nov 2006
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360°
Have a look here c: halhigdon.com |
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Nov 2006
1:47pm, 22 Nov 2006
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controversial
ahhh now i know what you are all talking about! I have got also some training plans from M G on my computer, really don't know where they are from. What I like from them is that they push up to 80 m per week ... but you can do them with just 60 m. If you want I can send them, i am not sure i can post them. |
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Nov 2006
1:51pm, 22 Nov 2006
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KinkyS
I'm nowhere near 80mpw but 60mpw might be doable - can you send them via FM or do you need an email address?
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Nov 2006
1:54pm, 22 Nov 2006
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B Rubble
The HH looks easier than the RW plan. The intervals (5x1M & 8x800m) are quite tough, especially as I tried to do them at 6mm pace. I did however think that the general advice was to do at least five 20 mile runs, does anyone agree with this advice?
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