6 Jul
9:30pm, 6 Jul 2024
45,026 posts
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SPR
Yes, clearly Labour knew what they had to do and focused on that. We've talked about Labour neglecting their core here numerous times and certainly in quite a few held seats, majorities were reduced but they gained a bunch of seats in areas they focused on.
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6 Jul
9:30pm, 6 Jul 2024
22,644 posts
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rf_fozzy
SPR wrote: Yes, clearly Labour knew what they had to do and focused on that. We've talked about Labour neglecting their core here numerous times and certainly in quite a few held seats, majorities were reduced but they gained a bunch of seats in areas they focused on. As did the lib Dems and greens |
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6 Jul
9:33pm, 6 Jul 2024
45,027 posts
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SPR
rf_fozzy wrote: Sorry correction - 412 not 410. People don't misunderstand our system as voting for your constituency MP has a effect on who ends up as PM and people rightfully care about that. In reality local stuff is dealt with via councillors. |
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6 Jul
9:42pm, 6 Jul 2024
22,645 posts
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rf_fozzy
Local stuff isn't exclusively the domain of councils and councillors. There's plenty of local stuff that an MP deals with within their constituency - both by being a liaison with the council and by being able to take issues which interface with the state bureaucracy and government business. Of course people do and should take into account who might be in the leadership team (it's not solely the domain of the PM - they aren't a president, despite many and the media treating them as such because its a bit lazy and easier to do so), but the point stands that we should vote for who we think is best local representative first. To be some extend reforming how the party system works (and maybe abolishing it?!) would be more transformative than PR with the party strictures placed onto our representatives to vote in certain ways. |
6 Jul
9:43pm, 6 Jul 2024
5,736 posts
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paulcook
SPR wrote: In reality local stuff is dealt with via councillors. I was once at a election campaign event - though from memory it was a school - with Phillip Davies and every single issue that people brought up that they wanted fixing were issues for the council. Sometimes I think politicians who want to do stuff should become councillors, those who want backhanders and free stuff should be MPs. |
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6 Jul
9:51pm, 6 Jul 2024
45,029 posts
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SPR
@rf_fozzy I don't think the point does stand as the government has way more power than your local MP. People weren't calling for a general election to select their local MP, it was because they wanted a change in government. |
6 Jul
9:54pm, 6 Jul 2024
27,025 posts
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Bazoaxe
I voted based on who i want in government. Only one of the candidates for MP made any effort to engage with me. I am neither here nor there with the sitting MP, but I knew they would win (50.8% of the vote as it turns out)
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6 Jul
10:19pm, 6 Jul 2024
9,082 posts
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Pothunter
The Daily Fail front page called it a “Loveless Landslide” For all the Tories complaining about the size of Labour’s vote share I would like to ask how they feel being annihilated by such a small vote share |
6 Jul
10:20pm, 6 Jul 2024
28,408 posts
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richmac
Good shout. They don't like it up them |
6 Jul
10:21pm, 6 Jul 2024
32,724 posts
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Johnny Blaze
They wouldn't be moaning if the positions were reversed.
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