4:39pm
4:39pm, 4 Oct 2024
249 posts
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Yakima Canutt
For comparison the cost up upgrading the UK grid to cope with the needs of new energy sources (mainly from Scotland) planned by National Grid is £58bn. That is also planned to take place.
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7:50pm
7:50pm, 4 Oct 2024
6,620 posts
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paulcook
Chrisull wrote: Meanwhile on the environment they can't find 26 billion for Green New Deal anymore, but they can find 22 billion for bullshit Carbon Capture and Storage Technologies. At the risk of sounding grumpy, but isn’t carbon capture and storage, what trees do? For free. |
8:14pm
8:14pm, 4 Oct 2024
23,156 posts
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rf_fozzy
Chrisull wrote: and dare I also add increasing tuition fees to 10,500 as another bad point Some universities are going to go bust if fees are not increased. Has to be done. Inflation has had a significant impact. The bad thing was holding them down at 9,500 for so long. I suspect it's unlikely to be sufficient. You can whine about the graduate contribution scheme we have and the way it is structured, but it's what we've currently got. And if you still don't like it, I'll point (again) to the real terms pay cuts that staff in universities have had over the past 16years. |
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8:16pm
8:16pm, 4 Oct 2024
23,157 posts
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rf_fozzy
paulcook wrote: Chrisull wrote:Meanwhile on the environment they can't find 26 billion for Green New Deal anymore, but they can find 22 billion for bullshit Carbon Capture and Storage Technologies. At the risk of sounding grumpy, but isn’t carbon capture and storage, what trees do? For free. Not at sufficient scale and timescales. I'm ambivalent on CCS - it will have some (limited) utility. Although the priority is still removing FF - but that's broadly happening already in the UK. |
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8:36pm
8:36pm, 4 Oct 2024
250 posts
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Yakima Canutt
paulcook wrote: Chrisull wrote:Meanwhile on the environment they can't find 26 billion for Green New Deal anymore, but they can find 22 billion for bullshit Carbon Capture and Storage Technologies. At the risk of sounding grumpy, but isn’t carbon capture and storage, what trees do? For free. A fully grown tree takes out 25kg of CO2 per year. The UK CCUS project will take about 20m to 30m tonnes per year. So my maths maybe wrong but I think that's between 800million to 1,200million trees needed. |
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8:48pm
8:48pm, 4 Oct 2024
6,621 posts
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paulcook
On the proviso those maths are correct, it provides an interesting comparison. We currently have about 3 billion trees in the UK at about 13 per cent of land cover - apparently 3x as much as we had at parts of the earlier 20th century. And we didn't have much more than the current extent for a good 1000 years. Though, as much as my comment was a little tongue in cheek, fozzy is right that even if we did improve the amount of wooded/forested land, storage is not fast if not negative until near maturity. |
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