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6 Jul
9:21pm, 6 Jul 2024
5,733 posts
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paulcook
It was indeed a record-breaking result
* lowest vote share for a government winning a majority
* worst ever result for the Conservatives
* highest third-party in a century
* highest difference for any election between vote share to seats
* first ever election where four parties got more than 10% share of the vote
* most independent MPs in at least 50 years (in fact more independent MPs than combined in those 50 years)
Is politics changing, or are all these merely an indication of the complete capitulation of a party who last time won a landslide, and in 5 more years we'll settle back down?
If politics is changing, then the calls for a change to our electoral voting system will grow louder.
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6 Jul
9:23pm, 6 Jul 2024
22,640 posts
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rf_fozzy
I didn't realise Starmer was a political party all by himself.
Regular reminder - you voted for your local candidate and their party to win (or not to) and not for Keir Starmer - unless you live in the Holborn and St Pancras constituency.
We don't have a presidential system.
And to be fair Labour got more votes than everyone else.
Comparisons to previous elections where there were 2/3 parties are meaningless in the new environment of multiparty politics we have in the current UK political landscape.
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6 Jul
9:23pm, 6 Jul 2024
28,406 posts
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richmac
It's not his fault the system is what it is.
You could also argue that Starmer has caused the LidDems and Greens to get more seats than ever thanks to tactical voting.
You could also argue that Sunak had handed the far right five seats after they had only 1 which they stole
What an amazing system we live under
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6 Jul
9:24pm, 6 Jul 2024
22,641 posts
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rf_fozzy
It's not one competition.
It's 650 individual ones, of which labour won 410
That's the current UK system, whether you like it or not.
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6 Jul
9:25pm, 6 Jul 2024
22,642 posts
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rf_fozzy
But I suspect JDA knows all this, because he is incredibly smart, and is just trolling us all
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6 Jul
9:26pm, 6 Jul 2024
45,025 posts
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SPR
Clearly that's not how it's treated, whether that's a good or a bad thing.
I'd have voted differently if I wasn't considering who would be PM.
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6 Jul
9:27pm, 6 Jul 2024
5,735 posts
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paulcook
There was also a chart that showed this election had a much smaller cluster of majorities than before. There's some suggestion that Labour won a much smaller share of votes for two reasons, one being the Lib Dem and Green advance which was as richmac points out was in some parts due to tactics, and secondly they knew they were winning a seat and moved onto the next.
Corbyn won some massive seat majorities but it still only gives you one seat in parliament. And secondly, I saw almost no attempts in my own seat for Labour to win, I think because they knew they would and hence their vote share wasn't necessarily as high as it could have been.
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6 Jul
9:27pm, 6 Jul 2024
24,355 posts
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3M
I do love it when we all have to have a furious agreement on here because there's little else to get excited about. Finally!
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6 Jul
9:28pm, 6 Jul 2024
20,392 posts
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Dave W
Yep JDA. We get it that you aren’t Starmers biggest supporter. You have made it abundantly clear.
Seems he’s done something to upset you along the way.
I’d rather judge him on what he does. But each to their own.
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6 Jul
9:28pm, 6 Jul 2024
22,643 posts
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rf_fozzy
Sorry correction - 412 not 410.
If more people thought about who was the best MP in their constituency to represent them and misunderstanding our system as voting for a president, we'd have much collaborative and less tribal system. Even without PR.
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Fantasy General Election
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