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paulcook
Just 4% (1 person, Lammy) of the cabinet are privately educated. Lowest comfortably ever. Attlee next at 25% and then May’s at 30%.

At least we’ve also - temporarily maybe - got rid of this awful ruling class.
6 Jul
1:16pm, 6 Jul 2024
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Bazoaxe
I don’t get this issue with private education. One regular poster here was privately educated and I know for a fact is a decent chap

Yes there are some who are not but to apply that label to all is not really helpful.
SPR
6 Jul
1:28pm, 6 Jul 2024
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SPR
It's about that being the only route into these roles...
6 Jul
1:29pm, 6 Jul 2024
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paulcook
I was privately educated. Not sure I’m a decent chap or not.

For me it’s the attitude of many of the privately educated members of parliament especially among the Tories. “We rule over you”. It’s an extension / throwback to 18th century politics. And secondly it can be very insular or create a limited viewpoint.

A better representation of views, as Starmer’s cabinet has, is progress.
6 Jul
1:31pm, 6 Jul 2024
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Dave W
It’s not the fact that some individuals are privately educated. It’s the overall makeup of the government. If sixty percent of the cabinet has been to Eton then they cannot possibly be representative of the country as a whole. And I would posit that because of their mostly privileged upbringing their viewpoints are skewed by that. Just look at Cameron and Osborne. No empathy whatsoever for the “lower classes” who were disproportionately affected by austerity.

The ethnic makeup or the male/female split should also be roughly proportional in my opinion.

If there is any overwhelming imbalance I don’t think it’s good for decision making.
6 Jul
1:35pm, 6 Jul 2024
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richmac
I agree, it's not about the individual's education but surely the government should reflect the make up of the nation in this way

Like Dave says the attitude of your Camerons and Johnsons (although he tried to hide it) towards the 'lower classes' was appalling
SPR
6 Jul
1:49pm, 6 Jul 2024
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SPR
Education is something the state should be providing to an exemplary level not something that should need payment as the only way to get it.
6 Jul
2:03pm, 6 Jul 2024
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Johnny Blaze
People can have a tendency to characterise criticism of private education as "class war".

There's a class war alright. Their class has waged war on mine for hundreds of years. It's still around, as a perusal of Parliament, the judiciary and the upper echelons of the civil service and "society" would reveal.

Any power the common man has, has had to be prised from their grasp piece by piece.

It's still around. It's just got better with the smoke and mirrors.
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2:03pm, 6 Jul 2024
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Johnny Blaze
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