Jun 2020
5:46pm, 10 Jun 2020
37,720 posts
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LindsD
What *is* the strategy exactly? Loosen lockdown piecemeal and cross our fingers? It's a genuine question. I am lost.
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Jun 2020
5:52pm, 10 Jun 2020
630 posts
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TheBeardRunner (aka Abul Choudhury
Think you've nailed it to be honest LindsD
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Jun 2020
6:10pm, 10 Jun 2020
19,381 posts
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ChrisHB
Announce some slight loosening of restrictions more or less daily (to keep us happy) without giving the people who provide relevant services any time to prepare.
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Jun 2020
6:12pm, 10 Jun 2020
23,390 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Buggered if I know. I suspect they all "know" that the infections haven't dropped enough to warrant a wider opening of the economy, but the economic pressure has now become too great. It strikes me that the absolute number of current infections has significance for the second wave, which will surely take off more quickly depending on the base level of infections a country has at the point it resumes "normal activity". I have a very bad feeling about all this. Add warm summer weather, a population which is already stressed and anxious, and it's all looking very shonky. Well, we will soon find out. |
Jun 2020
6:27pm, 10 Jun 2020
20,618 posts
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eL Bee!
Hmmmm.. It would appear that Primary Care is about to embark upon a not-really-very subtle massaging of the Governments "testing" figures. I've had pre-warning that we are going to be expected to "Offer COVID antibody tests" to everyone who comes in for a blood test. Thing is, an antibody test is pointless. If it is negative - nothing changes in terms of what people are expected to do It it is positive, we don't yet know if that means that individual is protected from getting it again, so we HAVE to assume that they can (at the moment) - so nothing changes in terms of what people are expected to do! The ONLY test that is of any significance is one that shows whether you have active disease, and that DOES alter what you should be doing. So it will be a pointless figure-fudging exercise that will be spun as a World-beating testing programme I shall crawl back in to my hole now 
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Jun 2020
6:43pm, 10 Jun 2020
64,565 posts
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swittle
In other news - permission, donation, climb down. mortgagesolutions.co.uk |
Jun 2020
6:44pm, 10 Jun 2020
30 posts
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kaysdee
eL Bee, my hope for an antibody test for my 16 yr old (highly vulnerable due to his disabilities and medical issues) is because the terrible anxiety we have in keeping him safe takes a massive mental toll. Indeed, whether he has antibodies or not (I would expect not, though he did have a 3 week cough in March), it would not change our behaviour going forward. I know there are no guarantees in immunity, but if we knew he had already had it (granted, highly unlikely) and come through it with us hardly realising, it would just make us feel so much better in that it doesn’t necessarily equate to a death sentence. That would be the only reason why I hope he can get a test at some point. His siblings (all of us actually) are terrified they are going to be “responsible” for his death. It’s just awful.
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Jun 2020
7:36pm, 10 Jun 2020
23,391 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Kaysdee, I feel that way too. My son has chronic lung disease and I suspect we all had Covid at the end of March. He fairly breezed through it and if I knew for sure he had we would be much less anxious about the situation.
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Jun 2020
8:20pm, 10 Jun 2020
20,619 posts
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eL Bee!
kaysdee and JB From that perspective - and from the perspective of gathering reliable data on the number of infections and the degree to which it confers future immunity, I am ALL for it. But I have become WAY too cynical about the way in which it will be 'spun'. I have had a recent antibody test which was negative. In a way this was a relief - because I have had close contact with many vulnerable patients, and my concern was that my test would be positive - meaning at some point in the past I'd had it........ but I would have no idea when, because I had not had symptoms. |
Jun 2020
8:42pm, 10 Jun 2020
51,606 posts
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plodding hippo
We have identified people as " highly vulnerable " on what would seem to be sensible criteria on paper. But this disease we dont know enough about. 3 of the patients in my unit who had it..all were mild. One on paper should not have made it Smoking and asthma are no longer as risky as we thought Immune suppression may even protect against an illness with a cytokine storm. We dont know enough |
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