Indoor Rowing
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Nov 2018
3:27pm, 11 Nov 2018
25 posts
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Jef
C W, yes. Go with the plan ALTHOUGH you can possibly replace some easy rowing with running I wouldn’t play around with it too much. Rowing is a very specific movement so if it’s rowing performance you’re looking for then stick to the plan. Pete Marston ( plan deviser ) coached me for over a year and would make no allowances for my running saying it didn’t translate well |
Nov 2018
6:02pm, 11 Nov 2018
412 posts
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Cats Whiskers
Thanks, Jef. That's really helpful. I'm trying to get back to running after several months out but I'm injury-prone, so can't train as hard as I'd like, so I know I won't be able to get back to anything like PB form. I'm enjoying the rowing though and definitely want to improve - I need a challenge to keep motivated! Looks like there's a 3 days a week version of the Pete Plan, so I'll try to stick to that, which should leave time for a bit of running as well without losing any of the key rowing sessions. Out of interest, do you think cycling/spinning are more useful cross-training for rowing, since you mentioned that cyclists often transition to rowing better than runners? |
Nov 2018
6:13pm, 11 Nov 2018
33,359 posts
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Nellers
That seems to be the consensus CW I'm following a Vlog of one of the GB Squad hopefuls (I posted a link a few pages back) and he does regular bike sessions, either int eh gym on the wattbike or out on the road. The rowing leg drive and the front half of the cycling stroke are using very similar muscles in very similar ways. There's much less crossover from running where the muscle use is not a "push your leg straight"-type thing. I'm not sure if following that vlog is depressing or inspirational. I watched one yesterday where he'd done an easy 45 minute session on the C2 at about the pace I did my 2k pb. It's just not human! Having said that I did a weights session this afternoon so maybe he is insiring me to put the work in. |
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Nov 2018
6:16pm, 11 Nov 2018
33,360 posts
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Nellers
Also as anecdotal evidence Rebecca Romero was a GB rower before switching to track cycling and winning a gold medal, and WIggly Braddins did quite well at the BRIC event last year after his retirement from cycling.
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Nov 2018
11:04pm, 11 Nov 2018
26 posts
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Jef
Rowing assists your running and your cycling more than the other way round. All round core strength and aerobic capacity. Also, I think you can push yourself harder on the rower than cycling... certainly more than running.
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Nov 2018
11:09pm, 11 Nov 2018
212 posts
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Muttley
Nice work Jef. Very tasty pacing and time after a long layoff. That's the kind of numbers I would hope to show as a medium-term goal so well done on it being the starting point for you! As for the aerobic and base-building discussion across the two disciplines, I figure that if you stick to the basic 80-20 rule for each you can't go too wrong. |
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Nov 2018
8:16am, 12 Nov 2018
413 posts
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Cats Whiskers
Thanks for your thoughts about cycling/running and rowing. I'll take a look at the Vlog, too. I agree you can push yourself harder on the rower than when running or cycling (outside), but I've just started doing some spinning classes, which are pretty brutal too! Muttley, I've not heard of the 80-20 rule before. Does that mean 80% of training should be longer aerobic/base-building sessions and 20% harder efforts/intervals? |
Nov 2018
8:27am, 12 Nov 2018
1,574 posts
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Lesley C
I am finding rowing really good. I'm still pretty slow, but I am trying to get good form and do it properly. Will be having another go tonight, hopefully a wee bit faster than last week. Are there any beginner training plans out there?
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Nov 2018
9:23am, 12 Nov 2018
27 posts
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Jef
If you check here there's a good amount of striating info Lesley. concept2.com |
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Nov 2018
12:23pm, 12 Nov 2018
213 posts
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Muttley
CW, the 80-20 principle means basically do 80% of your training easy and the other 20% hard. Most of the plans I've seen build on that, to a greater or lesser degree. I think the main criticism is that most of us do our easy stuff not easy enough, and hard stuff not hard enough  Lesley, welcome aboard! I'm on the "Beginners Pete Plan": thepeteplan.wordpress.com Talking of which, week 5 completed with 2 x 10 mins 2-min rest, same pace as previous session. Relatively undemanding and nicely flushed out the legs after yesterday's run. Onwards to week 6. |
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