Indoor Rowing

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Nov 2018
9:13am, 10 Nov 2018
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Mouseytongue
Some impressive times, gentlemen and interesting training insights too.
Nov 2018
11:31am, 10 Nov 2018
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Nellers
That's a lot of work guys!

Anyone got any easy cheat routes to fast times where I wont have to do loads of training?;-)
Jef
Nov 2018
11:46am, 10 Nov 2018
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Jef
Oranj. Nice to hear it :-) My downfall was getting back into running ( slowly ) and then getting Salisbury parkrun up and running where I'm the co-event director.
Jef
Nov 2018
11:56am, 10 Nov 2018
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Jef
Nellers, re training. I HAD rowed on water back in uni days ( middle 80's ) but not very good. Started erging in 2005 and hit peak 2009 to 2011.

At hight of training I was hitting 100km a week Wolverine Plan mixed in with some heavy gym and swimming. I'm 1:73 ( 5'09") and went from 94 kg to 73kg in that time to compete as a light weight ( sub 75kg ) Best I did was 5th at the old BIRC in Birmingham win my age weight category ) Last competition was 2013 BRIC where I hit 7:05 but was 75.6kg so failed the weigh in :-O

Training. My take on it is very similar to the Arthur lydiard idea in running where he had all his middle distance runners doing almost marathoneque training. Training is a pyramid and the bigger and wider base you have the more balanced and able to stay at the top of it you'll be. I think you CAN get there quicker by hitting a lot of short fast intervals without the hours of steady base building BUT its a bit like building your house on sand. bottom line is, whatever works for you though. No good doing training which makes you cringe every time you approach the machine. You've got to either enjoy it or really want PB/race/cup/record.
Jef
Nov 2018
12:01pm, 10 Nov 2018
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Jef
" Best I did was 5th at the old BIRC in Birmingham win my age weight category " that should read within .. not win.

Bugger. I really think I'm going to have to dust the machine off. I'll give it a go for a week then see what I can do 2km in. I'm guessing 8:10 if I'm lucky. ..for the record. I'm 55 and 85kg currently . I can lower one of those but not both ! :-D
Nov 2018
12:28pm, 10 Nov 2018
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Nellers
I'm joking about getting there without training Jef. I actually really like the rowing. I enjoyed the training for running and cycling and swimming too but the Erg has taken over since my achilles issues became......issues.

I'm still hoping that I'll be able to get back to running regularly at some point but for now the challenge of chasing a 7 minute 2k on the erg, and working out how to train for that, then getting on and doing that training, is enough of a challenge.

I think the "lots of miles and top it off with a bit of intensity" method is definitely the way to go. The way Wolverine seems to work even the hard stuff isn't eyeballs-out-flog- yourself hard in terms of pace. It just gets hard when you look at the volume of it!

I've done a few weeks of building some volume in without too much emphasis on any intensity. Longer term the plan is (based on Wolverine) Monday level 3, Tuesday rest ( or possibly a bike turbo session), Weds Level 2, Thurs easy 10-15km (level 4?), friday weights, Saturday Level 1, sunday easy 10-15km. It should total 60-70km rowing each week I reckon.

I'm trying to get into the 5-a-week routine at present and adding in the level 1, 2, 3 stuff one session at a time over the next few weeks. Once I've got my own C2 up and running in The Shed the timetable might change and I might get either a second weights or 3rd easy row session in, depending on time and exhaustion!

I'm planning on a 2km timetrial next Saturday morning to see where I'm starting and then repeat that about every 4 weeks so I can track progress in a meaningful way (training paces v HR will give me some clues I guess).

Hoping for a 2k PB as a Christmas present. We'll see how it goes.
Nov 2018
2:08pm, 10 Nov 2018
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Mouseytongue
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je4cI82ApGM
Nov 2018
2:17pm, 10 Nov 2018
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Nellers
That. Exactly. I started watchign Training Tall vids when I started rowing because he didn't provide a simple solution ("The one thing you need to do to row a fast 2000m" tye stuff) and just said "put the work in".

That honesty and work v reward ethic appeals to me.
Nov 2018
2:24pm, 10 Nov 2018
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Pothunter
Applies just as much to running
Nov 2018
3:04pm, 10 Nov 2018
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Nellers
Exactly, PH, but I'm hoping my joints will cope better with rowing volume than they did with running volume!

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How about a little league of 2000m times to see what we're up against:

Oranj (1988 vintage): 6:44.6
Jef(2010 vintage): 6:46.6
Foppotee 6:51.6
sinj999:6:58.9
Nellers: 7:02.6
Pothunter (2005 vintage): 7:06
Jef: 7:06.4
Craggy:7:08.6
_andy 7:10.9
Gym_Bunny: 7:16.9
Maclennane: 7:18.9
theOtherRichard: 7:22.5
Mouseytongue: 7:30.2
Rog T 7:33.9
Oranj: 7:37.6
Rich963: 7:39.3
NDWDave: 7:51.4
lammo: 7:56
Tiger Feet: 8:00.1
Muttley: 8:08.5
Cats Whiskers: 8:16.8
Fenners reborn 8:25
Angus Clydesdale: 8:47.2
BanjoBax: 9:13
Sally Kate: 9:18
Lesley C: 9:19
HellsBells: 9:23.1
Sweetie: 9:27
alpenrose: 10:03
GregP: 10:03

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