Indoor Rowing

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9 Jan
3:42pm, 9 Jan 2024
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Nellers
Blimey Foppers! That’s shifting, and even more so if you’re leaving something for later! Well done, mate.

And welcome Andy. No, there’s absolutely no problem with you adding yourself to our team on the Concept2 challenge.
9 Jan
3:53pm, 9 Jan 2024
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sallykate
Well no doubt this link won't work but there's a new marathon record on the C2 - average split 1:39.6, total time 2:20:06.9 (grabbed this from facebook.com , apologies for ineptitude! )

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Jef
9 Jan
8:56pm, 9 Jan 2024
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Jef
Facebook pic of the Marathon Row record 😳
Jef
9 Jan
9:00pm, 9 Jan 2024
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Jef
Stiltonman. Nice metres !! 😎

Beauty of a 2km time Foppotee!! I’m envious 👍

Welcome AndyS. Be it little or large metres it all helps !
10 Jan
8:17am, 10 Jan 2024
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Muttley
To finish a marathon with a final 195-metre sprint at 38 spm and 1:28 ... ye Gods. Interesting that no hrm was used.
Jef
10 Jan
10:16am, 10 Jan 2024
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Jef
pulling 7 lots of 6:38 2ks to complete is otherwoldly !!
10 Jan
10:20am, 10 Jan 2024
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Nellers
It's a bit of a superhuman job isn't it? That's quicker than my (any of our?) 2km paces!

I saw a bit on Insta about it from Jack Burns at Edge Rowing. Joel, the record breaker, did all his training for this based around HRV. If it was good he did the planned session and if it wasn't he took it easy that day.

I've been using HRV for a couple of years now and the one thing I struggle with is a bit of anxiety about "missing sessions". If it's got results like that for this hero, though, I think I'm going to try to chill out about it.

If you want to try using it then the HRV4Training app is what I use and it's very simple. I think some of the more advanced Garmins and Applewatches will also do the measurement for you but the app gives practical tracking and application of the data which I find helpful. I'm not on commission or anything.

Anyway, another tip from my very limited experience: I'm finding getting more UT2 work done easier by doing that "descending steps" thing I mentioned a while back. This morning was 20/16/12/8 minutes with 1 minute rests. As the fatigue increases the pieces get shorter and mentally easier. That was 56 minutes of work but if I'd done that as 4 equal pieces of 14 minutes the first one would seem very easy but the last one would feel quite long. It's definitely helping me get metres rowed.
10 Jan
10:54am, 10 Jan 2024
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Foppotee
Cheers Nellers/Jef, shame my 2k wasn't quite marathon pace!

I have no experience of HRV, don't even know what it is really. Might be worth a look next autumn winter. I am just doing 8-10 minutes easy at the moment as a warm up for the gym. However I am tempted to buy a C2 after the summer and have a go at BRIC.
10 Jan
11:16am, 10 Jan 2024
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Nellers
So HRV is basically a measure of how fatigued you are. When you're fresh your heart responds well to any little change in demand. When you're fatigued that response is suppressed.

HRV is Heart Rate Variability, so it's measuring the difference in timing between beats. If you're fresh and responding well it should vary more. When you're fatigued and training is getting on top of you it should be more uniform.

Everyone's HRV is different so you can't really say one score is better than someone else's. It's entirely about tracking your own, establishing what your "normal" is then adjusting training loads when there's a significant deviation from that "normal" range.

That's basically what the app does. I take a 1 minute reading each morning and fill in some basic details about how I'm feeling and the app will tell me either to "proceed as planned", "limit Intensity" or "Take it easy" depending what the reading is.

It should prevent overtraining and the problems that come with that, and I've found it particularly useful when I'm doing a variety of activities so following a sensible eg running plan with rest days doesn't really work as I've got to fit in swims, rows, weights, bike sessions, etc.
10 Jan
12:05pm, 10 Jan 2024
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Muttley
That's all a bit scientific and complicated for me!

I did 8 x 24 spm 2k+12 with 90-sec rests this morning, slightly ahead of the prescribed pace and what I would call a medium effort. I don't usually wear the hrm for intervals but I did today out of curiosity. Hr never got beyond midpoint of UT1 (125 bpm for me) and by the end of each rest it was down to upper 70s and nearer the end low 80s. Which is about 2 x resting. Maybe I wasn't working hard enough!

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How about a little league of 2000m times to see what we're up against:

Oranj (1988 vintage): 6:44.6
Jef(2010 vintage): 6:46.6
Foppotee 6:51.6
sinj999:6:58.9
Nellers: 7:02.6
Pothunter (2005 vintage): 7:06
Jef: 7:06.4
Craggy:7:08.6
_andy 7:10.9
Gym_Bunny: 7:16.9
Maclennane: 7:18.9
theOtherRichard: 7:22.5
Mouseytongue: 7:30.2
Rog T 7:33.9
Oranj: 7:37.6
Rich963: 7:39.3
NDWDave: 7:51.4
lammo: 7:56
Tiger Feet: 8:00.1
Muttley: 8:08.5
Cats Whiskers: 8:16.8
Fenners reborn 8:25
Angus Clydesdale: 8:47.2
BanjoBax: 9:13
Sally Kate: 9:18
Lesley C: 9:19
HellsBells: 9:23.1
Sweetie: 9:27
alpenrose: 10:03
GregP: 10:03

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