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Oct 2023
7:02am, 18 Oct 2023
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Nellers
https://youtu.be/BbuglXXCsiE?si=Jti-wYALDGEm6nAQ


Remember the guy who tried to match Redgrave's 2k time? Well he's now tried to get "average gym bros" to match Redgrave's average split for just 500m.

For reference they set the timer to 1:27 and tried to cover 500m before the clock timed out, and won £50 if they managed it.

Good fun.
Jef
Oct 2023
2:23pm, 18 Oct 2023
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Jef
Watched this this morning. I was surprised at how few people Mark had to pay up too!

It must be rowing month. My gym has a “beat the PT” competition on. 3:27 for 1km

No one has got close yet BUT I did wipe the smile off a couple of instructors faces with 3:42 for “little old fat bloke” effort. 😁
Oct 2023
2:37pm, 18 Oct 2023
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Nellers
I bet they were sweating when you got to 3 minutes! I looked at my all-time PBs after watching that and the only thing I've ever done at better than 1:27 in my 100m! I rarely see anything better than 1:30 even for a single stroke. I'm not a bit surprised that only a couple of blokes took the money.

Decent lunchtime session for me today: 3 x 4 minutes at r28-30. First one was OK. Second one sucked from hallway. Third one just sucked hard!
Oct 2023
3:42pm, 18 Oct 2023
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Nellers
Has anyone else spotted some of the additions Fetch has made to training data recently?

One thing that's new is "stride length" for running activities, and if I'm reading it right it translates as distance per stroke for rowing activities, although I think it's half the actual number because it counts stroke rate double.

Interesting to see but is it useful? Has anyone used that metric in the past to guide their training or hone their technique?
Jef
Oct 2023
10:40pm, 18 Oct 2023
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Jef
I’ve used stroke length when coached a long time ago. It was a part of getting 10 metres a stroke regardless of stroke rate.

Not sure how much it helped but I think it assisted in getting the economy I have.
Oct 2023
10:46pm, 18 Oct 2023
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Oranj
I don't see it. Perhaps because I upload the TCX file for my rowing (I don't get lap splits on Fetch if I upload the FIT, and sometimes it gets truncated if I handle down in the last rep - that doesn't happen with TCX).

Just looked at my row today in Garmin Connect: 8000m at 11.23m per stroke. I've no idea if that's any good, but maybe it just reflects a slow relaxed stroke?
Oct 2023
6:58am, 19 Oct 2023
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Nellers
So where you have the "Cadence" chart there's always been the blue trace for cadence, now there's a second (green) line. Hover over the chart and it shows as "stride length", which is going to translate as "distance per stroke".

But it's showing for me in the 500cm range so it must be halving the distance, as it's doubling the stroke rate.
Oct 2023
10:54am, 19 Oct 2023
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Nellers
Right, so I've no idea what to think of this because it's very new to me but:

UT2/ r18 work I'm getting 12m per stroke more or less.
UT1/ r20 it's 11.5-12m

Happy with that. Seems like a good distance.

As the rate/speed increase, though, I'm dropping distance per stroke to the point where my anaerobic/ free rate pieces were only getting less than 9m, and my 2km test from Sunday averaged 9.1m.

Any idea if that's an indication that my technique is breaking down as I work harder or is that just the way the mechanics of the stroke works at higher rates (less "boat run" before the next stroke hits)?

And any idea where there might be any info about this and how it can be used to help with improving things?

(Seemed counter-intuitive initially as running stride length increases with pace generally)
Oct 2023
11:38am, 19 Oct 2023
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Muttley
FWIW I find something similar with the stroke length. Roughly 10 metres per stroke at 20 spm, reducing a little at 24 and above. I suspect it's because at a higher rate we go back up the rail faster for the next stroke, whereas at a lower rate the flywheel has a bit more time to spin.
Oct 2023
11:40am, 19 Oct 2023
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Maclennane
(only if it happens together with an increase in leg strength - if you try to lengthen your running stride you'll go slower)

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How about a little league of 2000m times to see what we're up against:

Oranj (1988 vintage): 6:44.6
Jef(2010 vintage): 6:46.6
Foppotee 6:51.6
sinj999:6:58.9
Nellers: 7:02.6
Pothunter (2005 vintage): 7:06
Jef: 7:06.4
Craggy:7:08.6
_andy 7:10.9
Gym_Bunny: 7:16.9
Maclennane: 7:18.9
theOtherRichard: 7:22.5
Mouseytongue: 7:30.2
Rog T 7:33.9
Oranj: 7:37.6
Rich963: 7:39.3
NDWDave: 7:51.4
lammo: 7:56
Tiger Feet: 8:00.1
Muttley: 8:08.5
Cats Whiskers: 8:16.8
Fenners reborn 8:25
Angus Clydesdale: 8:47.2
BanjoBax: 9:13
Sally Kate: 9:18
Lesley C: 9:19
HellsBells: 9:23.1
Sweetie: 9:27
alpenrose: 10:03
GregP: 10:03

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