Indoor Rowing

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Jef
Mar 2022
5:41pm, 17 Mar 2022
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Jef
And I've roared into second place in the rowing league, on one-third the meterage of the guy in first ...


Damn !! I take a few days off and you zoom past ! ... funny that both you and I together aren't even in contention with Andy's metres :-D

Yeah, but that guy in first is doing some crazy 10k+ per day thing throughout March. Totally bonkers. Speaking of which, I did an interesting hour row last night, with 4 sets of 3 x 15-minutes, which was 3 x 5-minute splits of r18@2k+20, r20@2k+18, r24@12. The r18 splits were the toughest, in terms of keeping bang on the splits. It was meant to be 75 minutes, but I had to stop for dinner with the family, so it was "just" the 60 minutes instead. https://youtu.be/B7vQosfsQGE


A slightly Wolverine type training row. Those low spm sections can be surprisingly taxing. Starts by feeling ok then half way through you're like Grief! make it stop !
Jef
Mar 2022
5:45pm, 17 Mar 2022
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Jef
Today was a repeat of the 4 x 1km of 5th March.

Improved from a 1:54.2 average ( 29 spm ) ( 150 hr )

to 1:53.2 average ( 29 spm ) ( 153 hr )

Felt hard, sweat a lot too... but I think I have a bit of a cold. Satisfied though. Its heading in the right direction.
Mar 2022
8:43am, 18 Mar 2022
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Muttley
If I'm out running I can sustain effort up to top 140s bpm hr, after which I begin to get out of breath. My max hr is low to mid 160s, so I reckon the transition from aerobic to anaerobic is about 150 bpm, which is roughly 90% of max hr. That seems to add up.

So how come it's so hard to get my hr into the 140s on the erg and I feel so much more knackered and breathless?
Jef
Mar 2022
10:00pm, 18 Mar 2022
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Jef
I find the Erg knackers me soo much quicker than my Wattbike or running BUT running can peak my HR easier than anything else BUT not feel as bad as rowing.

Go figure.

I just think the rowerg hits you overall head to foot the hardest.
Mar 2022
12:30pm, 19 Mar 2022
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Muttley
That makes sense. And it's supposed to be 60% legs so an eyeballs-out session can leave me gasping today but good for a run tomorrow. It's why I love the erg.

4 x 11-min ladders this morn: 4 mins at 18 spm, 3 at 20, 2 at 22 then 1 min each at 24 and 26 spm. Still working on the flatter feet, seems to be having an effect.
Jef
Mar 2022
1:27pm, 19 Mar 2022
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Jef
Nice going. Deffo keep working on the flatter feet. you will reap the benefits eventually.

I was once told by a trainer that you had to imagine you were doing a squat or a deadlift. The power transfer is similar ( that's why they used to deadlift, good mornings and bent over row weights so much before ergs were invented to train in the off season )

You would never do one of those exercises whilst up on your toes.
Mar 2022
2:40pm, 19 Mar 2022
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_andy
This flatter feet thing is working nicely for me - good to read the advice here.

I managed a double today, with a parkrun (ouch for foot, but it was their #250 event so there was cake). And all that blue sky was a treat - beautiful day for the last day of winter.

Then a coffee & choc croissant to spoil the hard work followed by something similar to Muttley with 3x9min at r20. What made it tough was the power: 2k+1, 2k+9 & 2k+8 for each piece took a lot of effort & concentration.

I might well spoil the gains with a beer/rugby/F1 session later, but that's OK if I do lots of stretching, right?

https://youtu.be/vDCmQn9eIWM
Mar 2022
4:46pm, 19 Mar 2022
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Muttley
Beer counts as essential hydration, Andy. My weakness is pasties ... one of my best routes takes me past my favourite bakery. I invested in a small backpack, my pasty pouch, so I can grab one on the way home. The aroma emanating from behind my back spurs me on for that final mile and a half.
Jef
Mar 2022
10:31am, 20 Mar 2022
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Jef
Oh ! seriously love a pasty! I'm far more a savoury fan than I am sweet.

Currently just shaking off covid so just cleaning the erg down and figuring out if it'll fit next to the wattbike in the mini home gym. Mrs Jef would like her conservatory back
Mar 2022
12:29pm, 20 Mar 2022
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_andy
"You cannot out-train your stomach" was mentioned in one if the Rowalong videos this week. And it's true for me - my extra running or rowing miles can be undone by eating. I'm guessing my body is just efficient at hanging onto calories, which would have been useful for most of the last few million years. Savoury over sweet for me too. And the beer was great recovery fuel yesterday. Just the one, but it was big Innis & Gunn bottle (6.6%!) Well done to Italy.

Wow, sorry to hear of the Covid situation Jef - hope the after effects don't linger for long.

I like the pasty on the run idea Muttley, provided it doesn't get shaken apart on the way home. We had a fab week near Portscatho in Cornwall last summer and the pasties were great (along with swimming every day before it got too hot).

Now, where's Nellars? Hope you're mending!

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How about a little league of 2000m times to see what we're up against:

Oranj (1988 vintage): 6:44.6
Jef(2010 vintage): 6:46.6
Foppotee 6:51.6
sinj999:6:58.9
Nellers: 7:02.6
Pothunter (2005 vintage): 7:06
Jef: 7:06.4
Craggy:7:08.6
_andy 7:10.9
Gym_Bunny: 7:16.9
Maclennane: 7:18.9
theOtherRichard: 7:22.5
Mouseytongue: 7:30.2
Rog T 7:33.9
Oranj: 7:37.6
Rich963: 7:39.3
NDWDave: 7:51.4
lammo: 7:56
Tiger Feet: 8:00.1
Muttley: 8:08.5
Cats Whiskers: 8:16.8
Fenners reborn 8:25
Angus Clydesdale: 8:47.2
BanjoBax: 9:13
Sally Kate: 9:18
Lesley C: 9:19
HellsBells: 9:23.1
Sweetie: 9:27
alpenrose: 10:03
GregP: 10:03

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