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Mar 2021
11:32am, 11 Mar 2021
780 posts
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Big_G
Seeing the prospect of rewriting physics being described as "a non-trivial exercise" amused me for some reason  I like it, thanks MM (not that I can try and pretend to understand it)!
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Mar 2021
11:42am, 11 Mar 2021
73,565 posts
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Gobi
Some of you are very very bright :¬)
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Mar 2021
11:46am, 11 Mar 2021
9,641 posts
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jda
I tend to use the DT62 for the hillier (non-Alpe) rides as they are a lot more aero at speed and only slightly less good up hill than the enve 3.4. But this is a close judgement and I don’t really know what is best. Zipp 808 is the best flat choice for low-level riders.
Tron coming soon though - only 4000m to go, there’s probably a route for that!
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Mar 2021
11:57am, 11 Mar 2021
73,569 posts
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Gobi
JDA - yeap I had 808s until I got 858s - like I say as much as it pains me I learned to play the game
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Mar 2021
12:34pm, 11 Mar 2021
13,729 posts
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larkim
Rode with the C Cadence pacer yesterday and noticed a huge positive difference riding in the pack compared to last time because I had aero wheels on (808s I think), instead of the lightweight climbing wheels I'd defaulted to. Lesson learned. Think I've got a decent setup now with the Aeroroad plus 808s; best I can get for the Level 13 status on a flat route.
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Mar 2021
12:58pm, 11 Mar 2021
9,642 posts
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jda
Yes larkim that’s what I ride a good 90-95% of the time, DT62 occasionally on hillier rides. I’ll probably switch to the tron when I get it but this and the very top bikes offer only marginal improvement AIUI.
Did use the Tarmac pro and meilenstein for the Alpe effort but that is a very special case and I’ve only done it twice since getting that kit.
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Mar 2021
1:39pm, 11 Mar 2021
73,572 posts
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Gobi
Tarmac and millies for racing up innsbruck as well.
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Mar 2021
2:14pm, 11 Mar 2021
9,643 posts
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jda
Yeah good point I did wonder about that. Think I used the canyon/DT62 for the ZRL race. Quite a lot of the climb seems a bit flatter and faster than the Alpe, but perhaps not fast enough for aero to count for much.
The ZHR masters race does three circuits of that hill in a few weeks so that’s one to ponder for sure. If I don’t have the tron by the start I should by the end
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Mar 2021
2:47pm, 11 Mar 2021
197 posts
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Fopp
I just ride the tron bike, I rarely have time to think about changing it.
Did a crit race at lunch, I'd like to get up to A+ before it gets too warm to Zwift.
4.6 w/kg appears to be the target in 3 races so that's 358 watts for 20 minutes at the moment. Only managed 351w today so that's not going to count. In addition I have gone sugary treats free from today to shed some weight. Finished 4th according to ZP.
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Mar 2021
2:57pm, 11 Mar 2021
14,031 posts
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Yorkshire Pie
I have the tron as my default but for big climbs I try to remember to change it.
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