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Nov 2019
7:03pm, 4 Nov 2019
9,378 posts
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larkim
Or just eschew arbitrary marathon time targets and just enjoy 26.2 mile races no matter what the terrain 
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Nov 2019
7:59pm, 4 Nov 2019
1,265 posts
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Daz Love
Larks - I am the same as you with weight! Been out for all but 5 weeks with a knee injury. Today was the first day I could walk downstairs without pain across the front. Had Physio, another session tomorrow, need to do strength work. Managed to swim 3 or 4 times every week but can only manage around half hour in the pool! If I dont get rid of some weight before Xmas, the usual 5-6lbs I put on will make things very tough come Jan 1st! We could always meet at a parkrun somewhere and have a battle of the fatties
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Nov 2019
8:56pm, 4 Nov 2019
9,382 posts
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larkim
Roll up, roll up
I basically went from 50+mpw to zero. Not a good discipline level!
4m done tonight, progress!
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Nov 2019
10:05pm, 4 Nov 2019
82 posts
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Ian5
Rog-Well done on grinding it out.I really enjoyed the day,did frankfurt last weekend so I had no pretensions about pace so went and enjoyed it,took lots of pics and videos,high 5'd hundreds and really enjoyed the whole day,finished a smidge under 3:30 so would have been just behing you.
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Nov 2019
10:22pm, 4 Nov 2019
1,200 posts
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Oscar the grouch
Chris - is Taunton back on your radar for next year? I will almost certainly be a spectator and the other half full marathoning. I'll be two weeks out from Newport. I may possibly marshal but that is difficult with a 3 year old in tow!!!
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Nov 2019
10:55pm, 4 Nov 2019
301 posts
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Rog T
Thanks Ian - glad to hear you had a great run. Crowds and atmosphere were amazing.
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Nov 2019
10:28am, 5 Nov 2019
33,051 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
But wouldn't it be worth travelling to a flat marathon to try your best time? There's no way that *anyone*, irrespective of how they train, runs quicker on a hilly course than a flat one. Flat, even pacing etc. etc. take the least out of the machine and you will get your fastest time. However, as Bazo also says, it requires the correct mindset. You have to be trained to run at the pace at 20 miles that you did at mile 1. That requires endurance as well as speed and strength. Training fast and hard up and down the hills gives you great strength. But endurance comes from easy effort for long times (3 hours). You can get that in hilly places, you just have to be prepared to slow down to a crawl (or even a walk ) in order to keep in the aerobic zone.
Imho, other views are available, etc etc.
Or as larks says, just ditch arbitrary time targets and enjoy racing on the hills! I hate hilly racing, but that's my mindset problem! G
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Nov 2019
10:30am, 5 Nov 2019
15,471 posts
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Chrisull
Dorset is on my radar.... Taunton I've had too many disasters at (one half - epic shoe failure - foot full of blisters/one full), and I don't like the way you're thrown out into the traffic and lose the marshals, second lap around. Stratford on Avon deals with it in a much superior way in the Shakespeare.
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Nov 2019
10:41am, 5 Nov 2019
9,384 posts
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larkim
Barnstaple is another option presumably. Though at the mercy of the wind on the estuary I suppose. But very very flat!!
I'm with Chris that a little bit of up and down works better for me than the utter monotony of a properly flat course, I think. But not too much! Though i suspect that really only holds true for me for shorter distances, hence my HM PB set at Conwy, my 10m best until this year was at Stockport, my 5m PB (apart from the mid-race distance in my most recent 10k, which would have been faster had it been accurately timed at that point) on an undulating race circuit etc. I couldn't say whether a pan flat marathon would be a blessing or a curse. I guess I'll have to wait and see at Manchester.
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Nov 2019
11:12am, 5 Nov 2019
5,811 posts
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jda
I can understand people liking undulating courses. I can't understand people thinking they are quicker on them.
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