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Oct 2018
10:33pm, 6 Oct 2018
65,065 posts
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Gobi
I am the same in Cycling/triathlon and anything else I have played. I have always been able to take the rough with the smooth and accept that sometimes you just need to get off.
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Oct 2018
12:42am, 7 Oct 2018
27,136 posts
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SPR
I can see how pulling out because it felt too hard can potentially become a habit.
I'm not seeing the illness/ injury one though as
that's not the same feeling and you don't want to mentally think of them as the same at all. That's one that definitely needs to divorced from each other mentally, as the answer to developing mental toughness can't be breaking yourself by pushing on through illness/ injury.
J2R - Surprised by intervals a couple of days before a race effort?
Baz - Why do you think the injury DNF caused the marathon walk?
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Oct 2018
3:10am, 7 Oct 2018
13,487 posts
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Bazoaxe
sPR. I had been struggling with an injury for 18 months. Thought it was sorted but two weeks out my hamstring went. I tried to race on it in a 10k and dnfd.
This led to seeing a new physio who diagnosed the root cause. A misaligned pelvis. Three days before I flew out for the marathon I had an appt and asked about running it. She wouldn’t recommend it but gave me some advice if I wanted to.
So I raced and my whole pelvis was pretty sore and I considered pulling out at half way as I passed my hotel. Five miles later my calf went.
All in all I was pretty stupid but it was all connected.
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Oct 2018
10:54am, 7 Oct 2018
27,137 posts
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SPR
Baz - That doesn't sound like it was a mental failing though. You had an issue and you were advised not to race and had unusual soreness related to the injury during the race
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Oct 2018
11:52am, 7 Oct 2018
13,488 posts
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Bazoaxe
yeah sorry, thats what I meant but didnt explain well - sorry
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Oct 2018
5:33pm, 10 Oct 2018
1,412 posts
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J2R
SPR, yes, I can see that it looks a bit silly to expect to do well in a race effort run two days after an intervals session. But I actually backed off the number and intensity of the intervals when I realised all was not quite right, so I would be surprised if it affected me that much, from prior experience of these things.
I have to say, though, that whatever intentions I may have towards a parkrun, I never either prepare well enough for it in the days leading up to it as I would a 5K road race, nor give it quite as much on the day as a road race. There's always that slight sense that "there's always next week".
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Oct 2018
5:41pm, 10 Oct 2018
642 posts
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edison
does the 9am start for parkrun affect your prep? If I'm going to go for it in a parkrun, which is very very rarely, I'm up at about 6am to try to get ready.
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Oct 2018
6:00pm, 10 Oct 2018
1,413 posts
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J2R
edison, yes it does, very much so. I never really run my best at that time of the morning, and I'm not great with early mornings generally. But I have come to the conclusion that I do better in them if I get up earlier, even if it means missing out on a little sleep. The extra tiredness seems to be more than offset by the fact that I've been awake and active for longer before actually running. I've also tended to get my best times if I do something like 2 miles as a warmup, but that probably just ties in with the earlier rising - if I've time to do a 2 mile warmup it probably means I was up rather earlier, so it's not clear how significant it is.
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Oct 2018
6:16pm, 10 Oct 2018
643 posts
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edison
all my fastest times have come in the evening, with longer prep. same with 10ks - I do much much better if they are at, say, 2pm, than 10am or 11am. I like to get my 2 miles done pre race, which means having to eat a couple of hours before I start that, which means being up and eating by 6am, which I really really do not like
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Oct 2018
6:36pm, 10 Oct 2018
27,160 posts
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SPR
I rarely race before midday as track and XC know sleep is important 
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