30 Aug
11:20am, 30 Aug 2024
25,460 posts
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larkim
LOL, so she even selectively quoted the poem to avoid looking like she's nice to socialists and trades unionists!
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30 Aug
11:20am, 30 Aug 2024
22,949 posts
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rf_fozzy
I'd go with whomever designed the new stupid Champions League format first.
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30 Aug
11:22am, 30 Aug 2024
45,873 posts
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SPR
Clearly people aren't just allowed to do whatever they want because of choice. We have drugs that are illegal already. You can't just choose to murder someone. Choice has to be balanced against other priorities.
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30 Aug
11:23am, 30 Aug 2024
29,102 posts
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richmac
Cheg wrote: It’s a choice thing. I quoted demolition man. Slippery slope etc. At least I’m being consistent. If you support the eventual ban you should support the outdoor ban. If you support people having choice and not banning then you should be against the outdoor ban. I support people having a choice & the ban, mainly my choice to sit in a pleasant pub garden on a nice day breathing in rancid shit from people who hate their lungs |
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30 Aug
11:24am, 30 Aug 2024
22,951 posts
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rf_fozzy
But but but free speech. Just ask Elon. I'm sure he'd say Murder is simply a form of free speech. |
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30 Aug
11:27am, 30 Aug 2024
29,103 posts
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richmac
If you killed your victim to make a specific point then...
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30 Aug
11:27am, 30 Aug 2024
32,997 posts
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Johnny Blaze
There won't be a policy for a total ban, so a creeping ban will limp along for decades. Yay. A total ban can sit in the same WPB as "reverse Brexit now" and "bring back Spangles". None of them will happen. |
30 Aug
11:36am, 30 Aug 2024
69,514 posts
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LindsD
I'm assuming that the original Niemöller poem/speech was given in German, so variations will also be down to whoever translated it.
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30 Aug
12:09pm, 30 Aug 2024
4,424 posts
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Cheg
SPR wrote: Clearly people aren't just allowed to do whatever they want because of choice. We have drugs that are illegal already. You can't just choose to murder someone. Choice has to be balanced against other priorities. Smoking? Murder? Get a grip. Come on. Try again with something sensible. Alcohol is hugely damaging and expensive for both the NHS and policing. We go after smokers we should be going after the drinkers soon after. |
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30 Aug
12:29pm, 30 Aug 2024
25,461 posts
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larkim
I don't think he was saying smoking is murder. He was saying committing murder is a choice, and a choice which is illegal. Laws impact choice. They always have and always will.
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