15 Jul
9:41am, 15 Jul 2024
20,639 posts
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Dave W
Ten days. More than sufficient.
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15 Jul
10:05am, 15 Jul 2024
32,768 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Difficult to see how Biden wins now. What a mess they are in. Once he gets in the White House I can’t see him leaving voluntarily. I assume he can still be impeached but given he has now been granted some level of absolute immunity that can easily be dealt with.
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15 Jul
10:05am, 15 Jul 2024
32,769 posts
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Johnny Blaze
He being Trump.
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15 Jul
11:27am, 15 Jul 2024
28,512 posts
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richmac
The one thing we can agree on is that the quality of political assassins in the US has gone down since 1963.
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15 Jul
11:55am, 15 Jul 2024
5,463 posts
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J2R
I think you're right, JB. Enough of America seems to have decided it's happy to have a taste of fascism. The problem they may not have realised is that you don't get just a taste of fascism, with the chance of voting it out if you don't like it. When Trump is voted in later this year, that will be the end of democracy in the US. He will never allow the chance to be voted out again, or if he does he will simply ignore that vote.
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15 Jul
12:10pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,770 posts
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Johnny Blaze
That's how I see it. I hope I'm wrong. I'd be happy to be wrong.
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15 Jul
12:28pm, 15 Jul 2024
25,124 posts
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larkim
J2R wrote: When Trump is voted in later this year, that will be the end of democracy in the US. He will never allow the chance to be voted out again, or if he does he will simply ignore that vote. Do you honestly see this as a realistic prospect? Maybe I'm blinkered and can't conceive of this in any way other than a 0.001% chance which would require significant intervention of other "events" to create that scenario. |
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15 Jul
12:33pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,771 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I definitely do. If you have immunity for all official acts, what’s to stop you? Arrest your opponents on made up charges and do as you like in the name of “strong leadership”. You are under attack. Only a strong leader can save you. I am that leader. Your institutions can’t be trusted: they have failed you and we need to tear them down and rebuild them. It will be necessary to sacrifice some freedoms in pursuit of the greater goal. History shows it happens all the time and to believe “It Can’t Happen Here” is a mistaken belief. |
15 Jul
12:35pm, 15 Jul 2024
22,676 posts
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rf_fozzy
Project 2025. Not *directly* related to trump, but definitely maga-affiliated. |
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15 Jul
12:41pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,772 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Project 2025 envisions widespread changes to the government, particularly economic and social policies and the role of the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes taking partisan control of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Department of Commerce, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), dismantling the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and sharply reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuel production. The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts,though its writers disagree on the wisdom of protectionism. Project 2025 recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be either transferred to other agencies or terminated. Funding for climate research would be cut and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be reformed according to conservative principles. The project seeks to cut funding for Medicare and Medicaid and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care. The project seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception under the Affordable Care Act and enforce the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and receive contraceptives and abortion pills nationwide. It proposes criminalizing pornography,removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs and affirmative action by having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism." The Project recommends the arrest, detention, and deportation of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. It proposes deploying the military for domestic law enforcement. It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of those sentences. But no one would vote for all that! Who cares if you control how the votes are counted and can ignore the votes if you choose to. They’ve already tried it once. They will be better at it next time. |
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