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15 Jul
4:58pm, 15 Jul 2024
20,659 posts
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Dave W
The American Constitution is open to interpretation as can be seen by recent rulings.
And the ultimate arbiters of the American Constitution are the Supreme Court which Trump has stuffed with RW nutjobs. Not a level playing field.
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15 Jul
5:08pm, 15 Jul 2024
17,482 posts
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jda
“could also be described as scaremongering - or at least, excessive exaggeration.”
Yebbut you’d say the same about Pollyanna, which says more about you than the character.
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15 Jul
7:24pm, 15 Jul 2024
21,939 posts
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Chrisull
Hot take of the day. Trumps's assassination attempt neither bolsters nor hinders his re-election. There will be some poll movement from a kneejerk minority, but this will get re-absorbed in a couple of months. Whatever was gonna happen at the start of the campaign will still happen at the end. Election campaigns hardly ever change the results of elections.
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15 Jul
7:29pm, 15 Jul 2024
5,467 posts
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J2R
I would love to believe you are right, Chris. My only real hope at this point is that he will either do or say something so batshit crazy between now and November that substantial numbers of voters will be deterred from voting for him. But given how obviously appallingly unsuited he is for any position of power yet half the country adore him, I can't see what this batshit crazy thing could possibly be.
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15 Jul
7:32pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,778 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I think a hot mic moment perhaps.
Or a recording of some sort where he says all sorts of crazy shit.
I've given up hoping that Melania will spill the beans on him.
In reality though it would probably only move the dial by a bit.
Whereas Biden has got a tightrope to walk until November and can't afford any slip ups, Trump could walk it juggling chainsaws and lighting his own farts and it wouldn't change the minds of the faithful.
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15 Jul
7:36pm, 15 Jul 2024
17,484 posts
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jda
Frankly if he juggles chainsaws while lighting his own farts I’d vote for him. That’s serious skills.
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15 Jul
7:36pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,779 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Can't argue with that.
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15 Jul
7:37pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,780 posts
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Johnny Blaze
VP pick is likely to be JD Vance.
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Before He Was a VP Contender, J.D. Vance Suggested Trump’s Sexual Assault Accuser Was Telling the Truth
He also liked a tweet saying Trump committed “serial sexual assault.”
BY BESS LEVIN
JULY 11, 2024
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DELAWARE, OH - APRIL 23: (L-R) J.D. Vance, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, shakes hands with former President Donald Trump during a rally hosted by the former president at the Delaware County Fairgrounds on April 23, 2022 in Delaware, Ohio. Last week, Trump announced his endorsement of J.D. Vance in the Ohio Republican Senate primary. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)DREW ANGERER/GETTY IMAGES
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Up until a few years ago, J.D. Vance viewed Donald Trump like a person who hadn’t been brainwashed by the MAGA movement, which is to say: He knew Trump was a dangerous individual who should absolutely not be in a position of power over the country. Fast-forward to 2021, though, and the Ohio senator was suddenly full of praise for a guy he’d literally once likened to Adolf Hitler. And now, if you ask him about his past comments, he’ll say things like “I just think the results [of Trump’s presidency] were so good…. I was critical of Trump in 2016, but he proved me wrong.”
Still, it’s important to remember exactly what Vance has said about the guy he’s working very hard to reelect. Like, for example, his thoughts on Trump being accused of sexual assault: In February, after the ex-president was found liable for defaming writer E. Jean Carroll the previous month, Vance claimed the verdict was BS. But in 2016, when he was asked about an accusation from Jessica Leeds, who said Trump groped her, he had a very different take.
Per Mediaite:
In a comment that had yet to be unearthed until now, Vance went so far as to signal on MSNBC that he believed the story of Jessica Leeds…. Leeds came forward with several other women who claimed they were sexually assaulted by Trump. She testified in the E. Jean Carroll civil trial of which Trump was found liable for sexual assault. Her account was dismissed by Trump and his media surrogates at the time of the 2016 race, but Vance argued during an October 2016 appearance on Hardball with Chris Matthews that he was inclined to believe Leeds’s claim.
According to the transcript of the show, after being asked what he thought of Leeds’s allegation, Vance responded, “This is sort of he-said, she-said, right? And at the end of the day, do you believe Donald Trump, who always tells the truth? Just kidding. Or do you believe that woman on the tape?”
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To that end, CNN’s KFile reported last month that after the Access Hollywood tape came out, Vance liked a tweet that read “Maybe the Central Park 5 could take out a full-page ad to condemn the coddling of thug real estate barons who commit serial sexual assault.” (Trump famously took out an ad calling for the death penalty following the 1989 rape of a jogger in Central Park; while he never directly name-checked the group of young men dubbed the Central Park Five, who were later exonerated, many believe he was clearly referring to them.)
In addition to his comments regarding Trump and sexual assault, Vance has also previously said, of the ex-president:
That he goes “back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole…or that he’s America’s Hitler”
That he is “unfit for our nation’s highest office”
That he “can’t stomach” him
Vance also previously liked a tweet featuring a photo of Trump and O.J. Simpson that read, “Here is an old picture of one of USA’s most hated, villainous, douchey celebs. Also in picture: OJ Simpson.”
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15 Jul
7:38pm, 15 Jul 2024
32,781 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Jaysusmaryandjoseph.
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15 Jul
7:45pm, 15 Jul 2024
5,468 posts
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J2R
He is so vain, so verbally incontinent and so without any impulse control that you have to feel he is bound to say or do something so gross that his minders can't keep a lid on it. But then you have to believe his supporters might care, and it's getting increasingly difficult to imagine they do. He probably literally could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody without losing voters (apart, perhaps, from the victim).
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