1:46pm
1:46pm, 10 Jan 2025
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Johnny Blaze
He's way out on a limb on tariffs, but, let's face it, there's very little he could do which will alienate his base irrevocably - he's a rapist felon insurrectionist and they still voted him in. Not much worse he can do.
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2:01pm
2:01pm, 10 Jan 2025
23,475 posts
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rf_fozzy
Im old enough to remember in 2019-20 a whole bunch of people posting on here this morning that were in total confidence saying labour would not govern 'for at least a generation ' I notice that the same confidence is being said about election results 4.5 years away. |
2:18pm
2:18pm, 10 Jan 2025
22,573 posts
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Chrisull
I'm not sure anyone's saying that? I think Labour could lose 5-10% polls and still win a landslide.
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2:19pm
2:19pm, 10 Jan 2025
23,478 posts
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rf_fozzy
Chrisull wrote:
It's all over, McSweeney doesn't realise it yet. They'll hold on another 4 years and then even the most sympathetic will be screaming to vote Lib Dem or Green. |
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2:23pm
2:23pm, 10 Jan 2025
23,479 posts
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rf_fozzy
I think it's pointless to speculate at this point. It's like to stupid MiC MRP model a couple of weeks ago projecting an election result 4.5 years out from the election. That's just misinformation as the error bars on any projection so far out from an election are so enormous it's worthless. The polling isn't great for labour, but it's also not disastrous. And yes I think they need to be more ambitious and decisive in government. |
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2:41pm
2:41pm, 10 Jan 2025
22,574 posts
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Chrisull
Yeah it's over from a point of Labour winning people around or doing anything productive. I don't say they will lose the next election do I?  But I'd happily bet less people vote for Labour than last time - percentage wise. They've lost my vote already. They could even win a majority on 25% of the vote. I mean it happens in Europe... |
2:43pm
2:43pm, 10 Jan 2025
7,189 posts
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paulcook
I wouldn't have even bothered posting the poll but for the very same comment fozzy highlighted. I saw the poll about 10 minutes after reading the post. But nominally I would ignore anything this far out, now, 2019, 2029, whatever. It's a small guide with potential for large amounts of error. But, big but, Labour have some reversing of the trends to do otherwise they're almost certainly in trouble. It depends if either they have a longer-term positive strategy, get some luck, or actually people cotton on that neither the Tories or Reform can actually offer anything alternate. As much as I hate Starmer and Labour, he's eons ahead of them two. |
2:46pm
2:46pm, 10 Jan 2025
507 posts
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Ian5
Chrisull wrote: Yeah it's over from a point of Labour winning people around or doing anything productive. I don't say they will lose the next election do I? But I'd happily bet less people vote for Labour than last time - percentage wise. They've lost my vote already. They could even win a majority on 25% of the vote. I mean it happens in Europe... They only got 20% of people voting for them anyway. |
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2:54pm
2:54pm, 10 Jan 2025
33,555 posts
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Johnny Blaze
There are just too many variables at this point, and, let's face it, the Maybot proved that even a 20 point lead can fall apart if you cock up the election campaign. If ever there was a time to still be in the EU it's now, but we ballsed that one up , didn't we? Still, at least we got immigration under control, plus we turbocharged the economy. I wonder what would happen if Starmer went into the next election on a SM/CU ticket? I think they would need to spend at least 2 years rolling the pitch but who knows. |
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