10:57am
10:57am, 10 Jan 2025
33,552 posts
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Johnny Blaze
It isn't looking good, but, y'know, they've only been in 6 months and a lot will change. What I find most worrying is that Reform seem now to be getting traction as some kind of credible option for government, which would be a catastrophe. I am trying hard not to think about the precipice we are teetering on at the moment but it's hard not to. Change is coming and it ain't gonna be nice. |
11:05am
11:05am, 10 Jan 2025
7,186 posts
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paulcook
Chrisull wrote: I think the next election could be the most unpredictable one yet. With 3 parties polling similar amounts, it only needs a point or two swing to say go from a Labour landslide to a hung parliament or a Tory landslide. The electoral model gives Lab 238 Reform 170 Tory 89 Lib Dem 70 SNP 42 from the figures Find Out Now have. But given how unpredictable I agree it could be, I'm taking those with a pinch of salt. And that's before generally ignoring anything this far out. Though the direction of movement is only going one way right now. I really don't know what Reform voters are expecting them to achieve, or how it will benefit themselves. |
11:14am
11:14am, 10 Jan 2025
6,714 posts
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Dillthedog
There’s 4 and a half years before the next election. Why are people concerning themselves with polling now? We can have a third world war and a climate meltdown between now and the n. A weekends a long time in politics, 4 and a half years is a lifetime.
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11:25am
11:25am, 10 Jan 2025
5,764 posts
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J2R
Agree with @Dillthedog here, it's so far away that it's meaningless. People still haven't got out of the mindset of the later years of Tory government, where the Prime Minister was changed every 10 minutes and an election loomed. The situation is wholly different now. I do think Labour are seriously squandering the golden opportunities their massive majority gave them, though, gripped as they are with timidity. |
11:33am
11:33am, 10 Jan 2025
532 posts
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DaveG
In November 2021 the polls were suggesting a super-majority for the Tories and there was pressure on Starmer to go as there was no hope of Labour winning the lecture. Labour are currently judged on making cuts that are needed due to Tory mismanagement. In the next election they'll be judged on how successful the plans they are putting in place work, something no-one actually knows yet. |
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11:34am
11:34am, 10 Jan 2025
533 posts
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DaveG
election, not lecture.
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11:41am
11:41am, 10 Jan 2025
46,834 posts
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SPR
I'm sure we've discussed why Reform would likely become attractive on this forum during the election period and after. Clearly things can change in 4 years but there has to be something that changes how people see things over that time and a Trump presidency with Musk as his right hand man doesn't seem likely to help at the moment. Maybe the tide turns when he's actually in power. Even then, Labour need to make sure they have things the public believe they are doing well. Biden thought his record was good, but the public didn't think so. |
12:47pm
12:47pm, 10 Jan 2025
18,322 posts
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jdawayinamanger
We won’t just have trump in power, he’ll be on the way out by the time the next election come around. We should be fighting today’s battles, not imaginary distant future ones that might not arise.
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12:57pm
12:57pm, 10 Jan 2025
33,553 posts
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Johnny Blaze
One possible future is that Trump shits the bed so badly that people turn away from Nigel #metoo Farage and his numbnut friends, plus, you never know, Labour might finally get a grip on immigration, but I'm not holding my breath.
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1:43pm
1:43pm, 10 Jan 2025
10,028 posts
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simbil
Trump's MO is crazy talk and economic warfare to get transactional gains. Not military warfare though - that's just deliberately not ruled out to get his message amplified by media / social media and because there is no benefit to ruling it out.
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