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Jun 2024
4:07pm, 24 Jun 2024
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rf_fozzy
ANother "who should I vote for website" - a little more sophisticated than some in that it allows you to weight your answers at the end if you want.

votecompass.uk
J2R
Jun 2024
4:08pm, 24 Jun 2024
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J2R
Interesting that there's quite a spat at the moment between Farage and Johnson. I wonder what this will do for the Reform vote - I would have thought a LOT of what are now Reform voters will have been big fans of 'Boris' at the time.
Jun 2024
4:17pm, 24 Jun 2024
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DeeGee
J2R wrote:I voted in favour in 2011.


As did I, although I needed a bit of persuading, as AV was not proportional enough for my tastes, and I worried that if AV was to get through, that would have kyboshed any chance of a properly proportional system for a generation.

As it was, any electoral reform was kyboshed for a generation.

What they should have done was simply have a referendum to agree to give the people back control and smash up the elites, and then have a group of rabble-rousers work the details out later with an eye on their own careers rather than the wellbeing of the country.

That would have been the patriotic solution...
Jun 2024
4:18pm, 24 Jun 2024
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larkim
I'm still a FPTP luddite. But in all honesty, I'd probably be OK either way.
Jun 2024
4:19pm, 24 Jun 2024
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paulcook
DeeGee wrote:J2R wrote:I voted in favour in 2011. As did I, although I needed a bit of persuading, as AV was not proportional enough for my tastes, and I worried that if AV was to get through, that would have kyboshed any chance of a properly proportional system for a generation.


Catch 22 ain't it.

I honestly can't remember which way I voted, but your post backs up my position as of now. Given it's taken an eternity to get close to changing system, I can't see a second change anywhere in the offing, so AV isn't good enough for me. Though I can understand somewhat people saying it's a stepping stone.
um
Jun 2024
4:38pm, 24 Jun 2024
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um
I'd be in favour of PR (as per some local councils and the latter MEP elections), but I think 'one person one vote' is a fair way, fairer than AV or STV.

If I choose to vote for (eg) Count Binface, why should I get a second go to choose King Arthur Pendragon, then another for the local Monster Raving Loony candidate, etc etc?

AV seems to be about electing candidates that the least people dislike rather than the ones that most people want. And that's quite a radical change.
Jun 2024
4:57pm, 24 Jun 2024
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richmac
theguardian.com

Faragés knickers are twisted
Jun 2024
5:00pm, 24 Jun 2024
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richmac
Also I voted to get rid of FPTP
Jun 2024
5:10pm, 24 Jun 2024
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LindsD
I voted against because it wasn't PR enough for me at the time. I regret that now.
Jun 2024
5:22pm, 24 Jun 2024
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JamieKai *chameleon*
I don't recall whether I voted in the AV vote - I was 29 and not particularly engaged in politics, although if I voted I'd have been in favour as under FPTP my vote has never counted for shit (which added to my disconnect with politics in my youth)

We need a system that reduces the need for anyone to consider tactical voting - if everyone was free to vote with their conscience who knows where the vote share would end up?

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