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Mar 2023
11:35pm, 4 Mar 2023
19,680 posts
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rf_fozzy
Thanks simbil. Seen similar data elsewhere.
Proves the point. The "red wall" constituencies don't actually have that long a track record of voting for labour either btw.
And actually they are more demographically similar to other constituencies that consistently vote Tory.
So if labour is losing these voters, but gaining graduate/urban voters in return, their politics and policy positions as a party will necessarily change naturally as a result.
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Mar 2023
11:46pm, 4 Mar 2023
8,830 posts
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Fields
So evidence that is contrary to your point somehow proves your point?
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Mar 2023
8:24am, 5 Mar 2023
20,708 posts
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3M
Isn't that apparently the norm in British politics?
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Mar 2023
12:40pm, 5 Mar 2023
19,681 posts
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rf_fozzy
Yeah, you're right 3M, some realignment is always going to happen.
I think the point is that pandering to certain types of voters is never going to be a successful strategy, and that offering a broad base of sensible policies with offerings to the "broad church" is almost always going to be a better electoral strategy.
Which is why I find ideological purity so infuriating.
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Mar 2023
1:14pm, 5 Mar 2023
8,834 posts
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Fields
Is remain / rejoin an ideologically pure position, or is that only a phrase used against positions you don’t support?
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Mar 2023
1:59pm, 5 Mar 2023
29,734 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I’ll field this: no.
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Mar 2023
2:26pm, 5 Mar 2023
8,836 posts
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Fields
So effectively you’re saying that tomato sauce on a bacon sausage is ideologically pure but brown sauce isn’t?
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Mar 2023
2:28pm, 5 Mar 2023
58,638 posts
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Derby Tup
Your best post in a long time Fields, both politically and culinary. Keep it up
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Mar 2023
2:31pm, 5 Mar 2023
8,837 posts
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Fields
I’m a brown sauce man on that particular question
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Mar 2023
2:31pm, 5 Mar 2023
8,838 posts
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Fields
Gosh I meant bacon sandwich 
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