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Mar 2023
3:42pm, 5 Mar 2023
31,094 posts
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macca 53
Freudian slip? Obviously it’s tomato sauce on a sausage sarnie and brown sauce on a bacon sarnie 😁
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Mar 2023
3:58pm, 5 Mar 2023
19,682 posts
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rf_fozzy
Several reputable sources been reporting that part of the reason Sue Gray has decided to take the jump to a job with Labour is that Badenoch wanted her to run her new dept as permanent sec and Simon Case (cabinet sec) blocked it - it seems in part as revenge for her report into the covid parties that he himself attended with a certain B Johnson and was responsble for the culture in Downing St....
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Mar 2023
3:58pm, 5 Mar 2023
19,683 posts
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rf_fozzy
Meanwhile Oakeshott has been having a massive strop when she's asked about her total lack of journalist ethics....
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Mar 2023
4:02pm, 5 Mar 2023
14,410 posts
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jda
Has anyone asked Mancock about his total lack of ethics in turning over thousands of private messages to a journalist?
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Mar 2023
4:12pm, 5 Mar 2023
26,706 posts
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Dvorak
I think the point is that pandering to certain types of voters is never going to be a successful strategy
It worked for the leavers in the EU referendum.
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Mar 2023
4:20pm, 5 Mar 2023
45,783 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Brexit is a binary subject Fields, so by definition, it can only have "extreme" or pure policy. You can only be in or out of the EU. There really isn't much nuance there. Ultimate purity!
Whereas purity or extremism in wider political policy is rightly criticised as being unrealistic and unhelpful (in my humble opinion). You are a smart bloke, so I know you know this stuff. Which is why it frustrates me a bit that you twist what others say. I don't know if you do it because it amuses you, but it's not helpful in terms of reasonable political discussion. Which this thread aspires to (as I understand it from the side bar / header description).
Hmm.  G
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Mar 2023
4:25pm, 5 Mar 2023
19,684 posts
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rf_fozzy
"It worked for the leavers in the EU referendum."
Yeah, that worked well....
Remind me which version of Brexit was being voted for again?
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Mar 2023
4:26pm, 5 Mar 2023
14,411 posts
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jda
Dvorak, the leavers pandered to a whole lot of different voters with different lies, never producing anything akin to a coherent manifesto outlining what they would do. The Bangladeshi Caterers Association, for example, believed it would help them get staff for their restaurants. And some fishermorons thought it would help their markets too.
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Mar 2023
4:47pm, 5 Mar 2023
26,707 posts
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Dvorak
There was a lot of pandering, and a majority voted leave. And then we left the EU. Which has turned into a shitshow in a fire sale. As forecast by many. Nonetheless, from the point of view of the panderers, their strategy was enormously successful.
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Mar 2023
4:49pm, 5 Mar 2023
26,708 posts
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Dvorak
NB: A majority of those who cast a vote, although not a majority of the total electorate.
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