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Jan 2020
8:13pm, 23 Jan 2020
2,544 posts
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J2R
What I don't get, and maybe someone can help me out here, is how we have ended up with someone as our leader who is effectively a carbon-copy of Trump, just adapted to British tastes (he's a 'toff', for example, which people here seem to like but which wouldn't play so well in the States). Are we just extraordinarily unlucky? Or does every country have someone similar, a populist faux man-of-the-people malignant narcissist, waiting in the wings ready to be pushed forward when the time is ripe?
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Jan 2020
8:29pm, 23 Jan 2020
32,901 posts
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LindsD
In my more black moments, I tend to think that countries get the leaders they deserve.
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Jan 2020
8:30pm, 23 Jan 2020
32,902 posts
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LindsD
And yes - every country has those. More than one of them, I would hazard a guess. Farage is from the same mould.
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Jan 2020
8:35pm, 23 Jan 2020
3,508 posts
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mr d
Joopsy Dominic Grieve was responsible for the second coroners inquest into Hillsborough. Jack Straw reviewed it in the 90's and did nothing.
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Jan 2020
8:36pm, 23 Jan 2020
3,509 posts
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mr d
However the constant campaigning of the families was the real reason.
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Jan 2020
10:40pm, 23 Jan 2020
23,021 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I think by and large Remainers have accepted defeat and are now waiting for the Leavers to deliver on all the bullshit promises they have been spinning for the last 4 years. I for one am not holding my breath, as they have still not published the secret reports that reveal how the economy will grow in leaps and bounds over the next 10 years.
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Jan 2020
10:43pm, 23 Jan 2020
1,996 posts
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Canute
Raemond,
Notwithstanding its jokey format, Ian Dunt’s Brexit article (linked from your post 4158) is the clearest exposition of the major issues that I have come across. It is written from the perspective of someone with a pessimistic bias regarding Brexit. Nonetheless all of the issues it raises do appear to be genuine causes for concern. Perhaps I should not be surprised, but I have not heard any clear statement from BJ’s government about how they will deal with any of these issues.
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Jan 2020
6:57am, 24 Jan 2020
32,913 posts
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LindsD
I agree.
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Jan 2020
6:58am, 24 Jan 2020
4,161 posts
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Raemond
I've been trying to get my trade in goods guy to write a similar (well, perhaps more optimistic) explanation of diagonal cumulation for literally a a year, Canute. We've had it pegged as potentially one of the most important issues that nobody else really understands for longer than that I think.
So be reassured, even if the politicians don't seem to know what's involved in this, the civil servants on the front line do.
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Jan 2020
7:59am, 24 Jan 2020
682 posts
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Dave W
Whilst trying to be scrupulously unbiased, as is my way, I think I can say without fear of contradiction ( good luck with that  ), that with this shower of sh*t in charge were all fecking doomed.
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