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Jan 2020
2:23pm, 14 Jan 2020
10,002 posts
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larkim
LOL, so my point about NI never being a "country" would be broadly accepted by the populace, both Republican and Unionist?
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Jan 2020
2:26pm, 14 Jan 2020
1,600 posts
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Surelynot
DeeGee - the Union of the Crowns maintained the existence of two separate states - England and Scotland until the Union of Parliaments in 1707 that brought about the UK - nearly one hundred years later.
The decision to go into the Union was highly contentious with riots on the streets in Scotland.
It is interesting to look at European states. Italy and Germany only came into existence in the late 19th century.
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Jan 2020
2:28pm, 14 Jan 2020
813 posts
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Ally-C
Raemond might have to explain what the butcher’s apron is😀
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Jan 2020
2:37pm, 14 Jan 2020
6,122 posts
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jda
Germany re-came into existence rather more recently than that 
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Jan 2020
2:47pm, 14 Jan 2020
10,003 posts
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larkim
The map of Europe is very different from my primary school days, let alone what it would have been like in my great grandparents' early years:-
USSR
East Germany / West Germany
Czechoslovakia
Yugoslavia
Perhaps its that very fluidity in Europe which has me patting the UK on the back for stabilty in structure.
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Jan 2020
3:00pm, 14 Jan 2020
3,464 posts
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mr d
Plenty of tales of people putting England or Scotland as place of birth on their US landing documents and being sent to the back of the line. I don't know if this us standard policy.
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Jan 2020
3:00pm, 14 Jan 2020
3,465 posts
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mr d
*is
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Jan 2020
3:01pm, 14 Jan 2020
19,047 posts
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DeeGee
I don't hear the citizens of Neutral Moresnet or the Territory of the Saar demanding independence, though...
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Jan 2020
3:04pm, 14 Jan 2020
6,707 posts
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paul the builder
Lark - hmmm, no; very rarely is anything accepted by everybody over here. Only exaggerating slightly to say that sometimes every issue feels like a zero sum game. If they agree with a statement, then we must disagree with it.
But a more specific answer is no - as I said a couple of pages back, there actually is a sizeable number here who would genuinely say they were "Northern Irish". My OH would be one. I know there is more to defining whether a place is, or is not, a country than that. But if you asked, that's what you'd find.
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Jan 2020
3:06pm, 14 Jan 2020
193 posts
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Stander
Poor choice of word. Substitute the word problem for truck. So it should read.
I have no problem with a unified Ireland. Either inside or outside of the UK. Others obviously do.
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