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2:42pm, 13 Aug 2020
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paul the builder
fozzy - you criticising the reporting, or South Korea there?

Going back a few days - there is indeed a contact tracing app in Northern Ireland, which is a development of (and compatible/shares data with) the one from the Republic. I have it installed, as do other family members. It doesn't make any difference to my battery use, or phone temperature(!?).

It'll need time to prove how effective it is (and there's not very many cases it seems over here relatively speaking), but at least it's something started.

Honestly don't know why GB couldn't be doing something similar/same, but perhaps I'm missing something.

nidirect.gov.uk
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2:42pm, 13 Aug 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Balance of risk. And context. Etc. fozzy?

Maybe in Korea, people don't get on bus after running n sweaty? So for a normal, standing waiting person, an elevated temperature might be a reasonable indicator of illness? And if nothing else, it *may* help to identify?

Obviously if it shoots out a spear or drops an high voltage electric net on anyone with a temp above 39C then that's probably a bit out of order?
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2:43pm, 13 Aug 2020
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EvilPixie
another factory - sandwiches this time - has an "outbreak" .. Northampton
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2:44pm, 13 Aug 2020
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EvilPixie
(But what fun Happy! )
would surely stop people taking risks lol
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2:48pm, 13 Aug 2020
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rf_fozzy
I'm criticising the temperature measuring thing by thermal cameras in totality and implementing them for this method.

It's a stupid idea. Because the chances of a false positive are way too high.

Rapid testing is the only solution.
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2:51pm, 13 Aug 2020
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geordiegirl
I beg to differ rt_fozzy. I was in Hong Kong in March, most places temperature checked you before letting you in.

I ran one morning it was particularly hot outside I ran hard and was melting by the end. My temperature was lower than the previous temperature checks I had.

We have implemented it at some sites where I work. Ok it’s not saying you have covid but it’s a potential early indicator.
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2:52pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Bazoaxe
It sounds to me like an idea to minimise the risk and maybe will help those who are anxious . Won’t eliminate the risk. And it’s expensive.
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2:53pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Rosehip
I think 37.5 is high for skin temp, so would be unlikely to pick up anything other than fever (or maybe a "hot flush")
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2:55pm, 13 Aug 2020
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geordiegirl
Testing only tells you at that time you are negative doesn’t mean you’ll be negative tomorrow so how many tests do you do and how often?
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2:58pm, 13 Aug 2020
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rf_fozzy
So, evidence: FDA says it's certainly not fool-proof and subject to false-positive and false-negatives:

fda.gov

Systematic review of the literature (ok, from 2014) suggests that the evidence is mixed, at best. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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information, discussion and support about the unfolding Covid-19 outbreak
NO politics please
And above all please be kind and respect others points of view and concerns.

microbiologists view byFlatlander
Science of coronavirus
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/3#blog403867
coronavirus testing by Flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/4#blog405255

information for ashtma sufferers
asthma.org.uk

information for pregnancy
rcog.org.uk

imperial article
imperial.ac.uk
imperial.ac.uk

Government advice gov.uk

advice for those with RA and autoinmmune diseases
nras.org.uk

diabetes advice
diabetes.org.uk

explaination of the maths of the growth of the epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&fbclid=IwAR3exg0rG_Bz3gPqjXY3rcFajqVSk-cOK5lQGVkYcuzoMOdNEp7VTgH-Kac&app=desktop


tips to help you cope
drive.google.com

Advice to stay at home
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

planning for and what to do if you are ill
covid-at-home.info
support for self isolates
nhsvolunteerresponders.org.uk

Ft coronavirus tracker
ft.com

A good article about dealing with the feelings of grief that the current situation has given us hbr.org

advice on self isolation for indivuals with symptoms or and their household
gov.uk

seven day rolling averages
ourworldindata.org

A sustainable exit strategy document
institute.global

susceptibility to covid by flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/5#blog406151

bromage article
erinbromage.com

government guidelines 11th may for England(NI, Scotland and Wales linked at the bottom of article)
gov.uk

breathing practice
physiotherapyforbpd.org.uk

lancet articles
thelancet.com

help with mask anxiety
psychologytoday.com

tracker
travellingtabby.com
theguardian.com
video of droplet dispersal
https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s
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