Coronavirus **support** thread
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Aug 2020
2:59pm, 13 Aug 2020
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paul the builder
Does it have to be perfect fozzy, or is there some benefit to it being simply reasonably good?
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Aug 2020
3:02pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Too Much Water
I couldn’t imagine Koreans ever wanting to get on a bus whilst sweaty (they would hate the idea of causing inconvenience to others in this way). I wouldn’t be surprised if these shelters are a tokenistic way to appease what is a very health conscious (to the level of it being a national hobby / paranoia ) population. They’re very into testing temperatures etc when arriving at the airport. Maybe more for appearances sake, but experience says anyone wearing a uniform takes their role very seriously and solemnly. |
Aug 2020
3:02pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Grast_girl
It does sound like an expensive option for very limited benefit. Also implies they think it's here to stay, to make it worth that level of investment.
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Aug 2020
3:05pm, 13 Aug 2020
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rf_fozzy
Ptb - my point is that it's ineffective. Because you're getting false positives and false negatives. If you're going to start excluding people from doing things based on a method/test, it has to be accurate. All tests will have a margin of error, but I'd argue that the MoE on this type of test is huge. Simply because I can identify two major sources of uncertainty off the top of my head! |
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Aug 2020
3:09pm, 13 Aug 2020
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JR
Can’t seem they working in UK - other then as providing a challenge for the local chavs to see how quickly they can break in and smash them up!
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Aug 2020
3:12pm, 13 Aug 2020
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fraggle
rf_fozzy re temp checks, we recently bought an IR thermometer and Mr Frag has been doing lots of testing of himself in different circumstances eg having done a hard bike ride, straight from the shower, hot weather etc etc to get a baseline. Exercising doesn't see to increase your forehead temperature, if anything it lowers it a tad as your blood flows to your skin to try and cool you down. We're having this argument with our diving club as we're trying to insist on taking the diver's temperatures on the way in, but head coach says it won't be reliable as they'll all have been warming up first *rolls eyes* We had a kid turn up last week who insisted to his parents he was fine, then was sick later on that day as he had a temperature - not sure some of them realise there's a pandemic going on and we all need to be careful...
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Aug 2020
3:17pm, 13 Aug 2020
11,134 posts
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rf_fozzy
If we're going to exclude people from doing things based on an unproved testing method, I want to see data. Internal temperature will correlate with fever, I can see that (and it's well established). Skin temperature? Show me data. With uncertainty well quantified please. |
Aug 2020
3:21pm, 13 Aug 2020
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sallykate
On the UV thing, it's UVC that they use for disinfecting, not the UVA or UVB which affects our skin, which is definitely to be avoided http://www.uvresources.com/blog/uv-c-lamps-staying-safe/. I think it should also be a certain narrow range of wavelengths to avoid creating ozone, which is an irritant to us. There are potentially useful applications of it in this context - for example it could disinfect everything in a hotel room very quickly. If you search for "UVC lamps" you'll see a lot of handheld devices being marketed now.
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Aug 2020
3:21pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Too Much Water
JR - graffiti / casual vandalism like that is just not seen in Korea.
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Aug 2020
3:22pm, 13 Aug 2020
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sallykate
Clickable link this time I hope: uvresources.com
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