Coronavirus discussion thread

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EvilPixie Jul 2021 10:05am, 28 Jul 2021 26,839 posts	0 EvilPixie and what about those that catch it in hospital?
EvilPixie Jul 2021 10:05am, 28 Jul 2021 26,840 posts	0 EvilPixie also The recent falls in UK Covid-19 case numbers could have occurred because people are less willing to get a test ahead of summer holidays, says a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage). Dr Mike Tildesley told Times Radio: "Because schools in England closed last week, we haven't got secondary school pupils doing regular lateral flow testing and so we're not necessarily detecting as many cases in younger people. "It's also been suggested by some that, possibly, because of a high number of cases, because of the summer holidays approaching, people might be less willing to 'step up' to testing when they have symptoms. He says what we really need to do is monitor hospital admissions which are going up. "Of course there is a lag when cases go down, it always takes a couple of weeks before hospital admissions turn around - but if we start to see as we get into August, if we start to see hospital admissions going down as well then I think we would have much stronger evidence to suggest that this third wave is starting to turn around," he says.
swittle Jul 2021 10:08am, 28 Jul 2021 77,935 posts	0 swittle [Going back a couple of pages, an article from 2018 about public conveniences in & around Hull. DeeGee, is it the Queen Victoria St toilets which are Hist Eng listed? hulldailymail.co.uk ]
Ocelot Spleens Jul 2021 10:16am, 28 Jul 2021 31,508 posts	0 Ocelot Spleens EP yes, that is a much better explanation if what I was getting at, opening up, should have resulted in a rise in cases, I think, not a fall. So yes agree with all the points, I think we will see hospitalisations and deaths continue to go up. I think the splitting up of the infections is semantics, if you have covid, you have covid, it might not be the reason you are in hospital, but we need to know just how many infections there are do that a proper understanding of where we are and the overall threat yo the NHS services is known. Currently Manchester is running at mid winter rates with chest and respiratory problems and it is mid summer. It is going to be fucking shit this winter.
DeeGee Jul 2021 10:31am, 28 Jul 2021 21,152 posts	0 DeeGee [Yes Swittle. Queen Victoria Square.]
icemaiden Jul 2021 10:32am, 28 Jul 2021 5,217 posts	0 icemaiden Hospitalisation rates are five days old when they are reported. The most recent is for 22nd July, nearly a week ago now. If the drop in cases is 'real' the hospitalisation rates won't be shown to go down for some time yet.
Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs) Jul 2021 10:36am, 28 Jul 2021 32,113 posts	0 Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs) Rates at our local hospital are gradually increasing.
Non-runner Jul 2021 10:48am, 28 Jul 2021 1,049 posts	0 Non-runner Bazo - yes if they develop it after admission and need hospital treatment for it such as oxygen (rather than say just a paracetamol), then yes count them as a CoVid admission. EP - if they catch it in hospital and it is bad enough to need specialist treatment (as above, such that if they hadn’t been admitted for their original illness they would have been for CoVid), then yes count them as a CoVid admission. Thank you for your comments, always useful.
Non-runner Jul 2021 10:50am, 28 Jul 2021 1,050 posts	0 Non-runner Sorry for jumping in, I was trying to refrain from commenting as I am often clumsy with words but also think the separation of cases admitted would be helpful.
icemaiden Jul 2021 10:55am, 28 Jul 2021 5,218 posts	0 icemaiden The most recent data for admissions to our local hospital is 18 July, 10 days ago. I have no idea if admissions are rising or falling in our area.