16 May
7:22pm, 16 May 2024
17,075 posts
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jda
They'll just say "soft on immigration" and "great replacement theory" and stuff like that. It doesn't need to be true or relevant, just needs to push the right buttons.
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16 May
7:35pm, 16 May 2024
24,170 posts
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larkim
The only difference being that I think anyone that is triggered today by those sorts of words is already part of the camp still voting Tory or Reform. Which is, ultimately, why the Tories shouldn't stand a chance at this next election.
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16 May
9:00pm, 16 May 2024
19,063 posts
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Dave W
Ministers knew about carer’s allowance problems three years ago, report reveals. Suppressed DWP study told of hardship endured by carers forced to repay thousands after minor allowance breaches. Bastards! |
16 May
9:26pm, 16 May 2024
27,480 posts
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richmac
Dave W wrote: Ministers knew about carer’s allowance problems three years ago, report reveals. Suppressed DWP study told of hardship endured by carers forced to repay thousands after minor allowance breaches. Bastards! Clearly taking tips from post office management |
1:56am
1:56am, 17 May 2024
22,116 posts
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rf_fozzy
I do think that *some* of the vautionof a Starmer led labour party is Starmer. But I also think there is significant scarring from 2019, where after the surprise of 2017 they learned the wrong lessons (it was about brexit and how bad TM was as PM) and tried to promise the world to everyone, which kust looked naive, even if some of the (particularly McDonnell areas) policies were very sensible. But what happened was that it opened them to multiple attack lines from multiple angles and it resulted in the kicking. Many of the current front labour bench have that scarring. Bear in mind that not that many of the current intake were in govt in the Brown era and even then only a few were around for the 97 and 01 landslides. |
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1:57am
1:57am, 17 May 2024
22,117 posts
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rf_fozzy
That's what's leading to the ultra - cautious approach.
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6:25am
6:25am, 17 May 2024
27,484 posts
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richmac
I tend to agree, you dune come off a hiding like 2019 without trying to cover all angles. Although, 2019 Johnson had the ground swell of Brexit voters thinking he was a hero. Turned out well didn't it. |
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