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Aug 2016
2:00pm, 25 Aug 2016
569 posts
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Flatlander
After being battered by Sunday's strong wind during my 16 miles run, I'm still feeling a bit drained and not running that smoothly, so although I've managed the scheduled distances since then, they've been slower and more of an effort than they should have been. Hopefully tomorrow's rest day will see an improvement.
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Aug 2016
2:00pm, 25 Aug 2016
3,703 posts
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clare1976
When your running is as pitiful as mine currently is there are 3 options:-
1 - give up
2 - slog it out and get miserable and depressed comparing then and now
3 - run for fun and enjoyment to restore mojo and get the motivation back to train properly..
I've tried all 3 and am enjoying no.3, onwards from here 
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Aug 2016
2:02pm, 25 Aug 2016
570 posts
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Flatlander
Number 3 sounds by far the best option :-).
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Aug 2016
2:43pm, 25 Aug 2016
4,113 posts
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Huntsman
Excellent Clare
I've experienced all three during most of my marathon PB attempts.
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Aug 2016
7:08pm, 25 Aug 2016
3,283 posts
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chunkywizard
Training's going well thanks Huntsman. On holiday at the moment but I've been running at 7:30am and I'm really enjoying it, even managed to find a track and did some Yassos yesterday. Long run on Sunday of 20miles and I've found somewhere flat to run it which I'm really glad of (it's *very* hilly round here). I'm running on the Camel Trail from Bodmin to Padstow (well 10 miles of it anyway). I think since I've basically been hill training everyday hopefully a flat 20miler should feel o.k.
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Aug 2016
8:00pm, 25 Aug 2016
4,114 posts
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Huntsman
CW-Good
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Aug 2016
10:53am, 26 Aug 2016
7 posts
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bgillam001
Has anyone ever used one of the race time predictor tools? I notched a PB on Wednesday in a 10k race, which I'm really happy about, although my legs still hurt now! I entered the time in a race predictor calculator and it reckons I could achieve a 3.11 marathon given the 10k time. That seems frankly crazy and well beyond me, but maybe I ought to be pushing myself more?
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Aug 2016
11:12am, 26 Aug 2016
4,118 posts
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Huntsman
Ignore the calculator for anything over HM I would suggest.
The marathon is so mileage based that if you're not getting in the right level of mileage you'll get no where near the race predictors.
However, if you're banging in 200+ mileage months, of the correct marathon training, then you would have a chance imo.
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Aug 2016
11:37am, 26 Aug 2016
3,455 posts
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Nelly
I'm not sure I'd go quite so far as ignoring the calculators, however, I would say the big caveat with the results of all the calculators is they assume that you are equally well trained for the event you are predicting a time for as you were for the event you've entered a time. And it is this assumption that leads to "ambitious" marathon predictions from shorter races for many people, as they don't have the same level of marathon specific training.
bgillam001 - looking through your race history and training log, I notice that you've made not insignificant improvements in your 5k and 10k PBs, and to a slightly less extent HM, since your previous marathon in 2009, so IMO a nice marathon PB is on the cards. I'd say it will most likely be sub-3:30, maybe even slightly quicker, but IMO I think you'd be silly to set-off at 3:11 pace.
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Aug 2016
12:05pm, 26 Aug 2016
639 posts
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SM6
I'd agree with Huntsman. For the vast majority, the marathon time predicted from those calculators is out of reach. Especially when you start taking it from a race shorter than HM.
Assuming you could convert your 10k reasonably well to HM (92-93?) then you should be able to go safely sub 3:30
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