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Mar 2020
8:59pm, 13 Mar 2020
29,976 posts
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SPR
It's easily a grab and I'm pretty sure they intended holding and touching to be included in that. Also the law is "including and not limited to" he can be and was found guilty under the law, even if you don't agree it fit grab.
It's silly to even try and justify it. Why should a player have to accept another player touching their genitals?
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Mar 2020
9:47pm, 13 Mar 2020
34,094 posts
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LindsD
Exactly.
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Mar 2020
11:33pm, 13 Mar 2020
19,010 posts
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flanker
He deserves it just for bringing the game into disrepute, never mind the actual offence.
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Mar 2020
11:57pm, 13 Mar 2020
17,055 posts
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Angus Clydesdale
Really? Sounds like some of you never even played, or are choosing to forget. And such high-handed terminology. "Bringing the game into disrepute" "sexual assault" etc etc. Who do you think you are?
Do you not think that if it truly was a 'sexual assault' he wouldn’t be getting investigated for that. Bloody armchair analysts and keyboard warriors the lot of you. I thought this thread was supposed to be about rugby, not hand wringing. You all seem to prefer tabloid style gossip and fantasy scenarios.
I think I’m out.
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Mar 2020
12:14am, 14 Mar 2020
29,978 posts
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SPR
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Mar 2020
6:43pm, 15 Mar 2020
19,015 posts
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flanker
Bye AC. You might think all the coverage on the front pages and TV over the last week has been good for the game, but I disagree and think his actions have harmed the game's image, especially in the eyes of the casual follower or those who never watch rugby.
Anyone who'd ever played the game would know that you don't do that type of thing out in the open and directly in front of the ref - even 4th XV prop knows that, and they're not known for being particularly bright - never mind when you know there are cameras everywhere recording it for TV.
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Mar 2020
6:46pm, 15 Mar 2020
816 posts
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Paul N
The right to feel willies is a strange hill to die on
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Mar 2020
6:25am, 16 Mar 2020
13,689 posts
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richmac
Also, it's not about what 'we used to do' as very mediocre amateurs it's about the actions of someone representing their country and the example that sets to that who follow.
Imagine the next week your child comes home from their junior match and had had their balls twisted and pulled and is in your kitchen crying? Wendy would you say to them? Man up it's ok for Joe marler to do our so what are your whinging about?'
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Mar 2020
6:41am, 16 Mar 2020
2,994 posts
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ThorntonRunner
A defence that seems to say it happened in the 70s and 80s so it's OK to happen now is particularly weak.
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Mar 2020
11:10am, 18 Mar 2020
7,140 posts
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Too Much Water
England France World Cup QF 1991
Australia New Zealand World Cup 1991
Lions SA 2009 2nd test
Lions NZ 2017 1st 2nd and third test
Harlequins v Leicester premiership final 2012
England Scotland 2019
England Ireland 1994
England Australia test 2 and 3 2016
Leinster Northampton 2011 Heineken cup
Saracens Exeter 2019 prem final
France nz wc 1999
Lions SA 1997 first test
Wales v Scotland 1982
Scotland v England 1986
Scotland v France 1996
Above is a random list of matches I’ve had recommended to rewatch on YouTube. No idea if they are all available but I watched the first one last night, Micky Skinners massive tackle. that pack would have done worse things than Joe Marler did before the coin was tossed
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