12 Sep
8:42am, 12 Sep 2024
46,068 posts
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SPR
He's not in power and if Labour do a full term, there's no chance of him ever working with the next president, it's a risk free statement that I expect plays well with whoever he wants to hear it. I just remembered 2017 was Theresa May, I imagine the policy around WFA was unpopular in the party even then. |
12 Sep
8:48am, 12 Sep 2024
25,560 posts
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larkim
I just surprised his calculation is that saying he'd vote Trump is a net benefit to his leadership campaign. Maybe that says everything about the current parliamentary Tory party.
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12 Sep
8:53am, 12 Sep 2024
46,069 posts
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SPR
They voted for Johnson and Truss but would draw the line at Trump?
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12 Sep
9:01am, 12 Sep 2024
46,070 posts
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SPR
Actually if Johnson could stand, wouldn't he be a strong favourite (if he got past the MPs)?
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12 Sep
9:25am, 12 Sep 2024
25,561 posts
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larkim
Trump is surely a league apart from Johnson, as bad as Johnson was. And Truss, whilst with hindsight was a complex basket case, was not on Trumpian levels of "they're eating the dogs" or "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning" level either.
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12 Sep
9:53am, 12 Sep 2024
22,114 posts
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Chrisull
But did Trump conspire to have a journalist beaten up? theguardian.com |
12 Sep
9:53am, 12 Sep 2024
4,490 posts
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Cheg
He is now claiming that was sarcastic as well. I for one love when my leader, gives jokey advice around solutions for a global pandemic.* *I’m being sarcastic |
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12 Sep
9:58am, 12 Sep 2024
22,115 posts
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Chrisull
Separately, a good reminder for those assuming Labour will be one term wonders, Maggie Thatcher in 1981 - two years after election, was hideously unpopular, unemployment rising, riots, poverty and yet two years later a landslide... If Starmer/Reeves (and I have no confidence at all they can, but it ain't impossible), ride the wave of doing the unpopular shit early on in the tenure (which is when they should do unpopular stuff - again I don't support a lot of what they're doing, but means testing WFA isn't exactly Chicago school of economics right wingery), and then fixing public services etc later on, it could be a very different landscape. Also if Harris could get it, US relationship could be less problematic too. |
12 Sep
10:04am, 12 Sep 2024
23,022 posts
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rf_fozzy
larkim wrote: I just surprised his calculation is that saying he'd vote Trump is a net benefit to his leadership campaign. Maybe that says everything about the current parliamentary Tory party. His competition is Badenoch and it's about being the swivel-eyed loony reformy play to the conservative party based platform. The Tory party base are extreme. They *still* want Johnson. The Johnsonian sycophants online who still say he was ousted in a coup, who say Brexit was sabotaged by the labour party/parliament/remainders/assylum seekers or just anyone they don't like - that *is* the Tory party membership. They are basically Nadine Dorries. |
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12 Sep
10:12am, 12 Sep 2024
23,023 posts
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rf_fozzy
Stat of the day Tories got 6% of the under 24 women's vote in the GE. bsky.app Not only beaten by all other 'big' parties in this demographic, but also by "others" Compare to 24% in 2015 Jenrick will have them all flocking back I'm sure. |
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