11 Sep
11:21pm, 11 Sep 2024
23,020 posts
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rf_fozzy
SPR wrote: rf_fozzy wrote:Tories also attacked removal of the WFA, despite *it being in their 2024 election manifesto* Shameless opportunist hypocrites. Is this true? Can't find anything saying this and a Google search suggests their manifesto pledged to keep it? Apologies maybe I've got this wrong. I saw somewhere they'd pledged to scrap it. But I should have checked. |
12 Sep
12:49am, 12 Sep 2024
6,421 posts
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paulcook
Conservative 2017 manifesto has means testing winter fuel payments. (source Otto English on Twitter).
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12 Sep
7:46am, 12 Sep 2024
11,623 posts
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Fields
Freezing pensioners to kill even foreigners
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12 Sep
7:52am, 12 Sep 2024
11,624 posts
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Fields
Looks like shock therapy for the NHS, part of labours plan to means test and privatise I expect Good book on Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein and how it intentionally destroys |
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12 Sep
7:57am, 12 Sep 2024
23,021 posts
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rf_fozzy
paulcook wrote: Conservative 2017 manifesto has means testing winter fuel payments. (source Otto English on Twitter). Ah thanks. It might have been him where I saw it on Bluesky (people need to stop using the musk misinformation channel). I've mixed up the 2024 manifesto with the fact it was in the 2017 one. |
12 Sep
8:17am, 12 Sep 2024
25,557 posts
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larkim
It's bog standard politics unfortunately. The very same Tories who are painting themselves as the voice of the WFA advocacy movement also campaigned under the 2017 manifesto with a pledge to means test it. They're free to say "we've changed our minds" I suppose, but it is galling that they are doing their advocacy with such a holier than though approach.
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12 Sep
8:24am, 12 Sep 2024
25,558 posts
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larkim
Jenrick confirms he'd vote Trump if he was in the US. x.com How is that even remotely sane behaviour from someone who wants to lead a UK political party!?! |
12 Sep
8:27am, 12 Sep 2024
46,066 posts
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SPR
Can't really criticise the Tories here. That was 7 years ago and their 2024 manifesto was clear. 7 years ago Labour would have probably done exactly what the Tories are doing now. Presumably the analysis that Sunak is referring to from 2017 exists precisely for that reason.
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12 Sep
8:32am, 12 Sep 2024
46,067 posts
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SPR
larkim wrote: Jenrick confirms he'd vote Trump if he was in the US. x.com How is that even remotely sane behaviour from someone who wants to lead a UK political party!?! I'm surprised, you're surprised. I doubt people will care either if they're sick of Labour in 5 years time. |
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12 Sep
8:34am, 12 Sep 2024
25,559 posts
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larkim
I could see a Dorries or a Truss or a Rees-Mogg getting away with backing the lunatic with the orange face, but even if privately they have a principled reason for not backing the Dems, surely the best answer to save face here is that as someone looking to be a PM in waiting if elected as leader of the opposition, it wouldn't be right for them to say who they would prefer as president.
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