5 Jul
11:15am, 5 Jul 2024
11,460 posts
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Fields
1.6% more than last time round and 8-10% less than the polls said Starmer out? And 2/3 of the seats for 1/3 of the vote ? |
5 Jul
11:20am, 5 Jul 2024
24,965 posts
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larkim
Tactical voting to support LDs could explain some of the Labour shortfall, and nervous Tories activated by the "supermajority" discussions could explain the higher Tory turnout perhaps at the expense of some Reform votes too. Can't disagree that the FPTP vs PropRep case looks stark. Impossible to say how people would have voted had we had PR though, but a 38% vote share for Tory/Ref is not insignificant in the context of how appalling the RW leadership has been over the last few years. |
5 Jul
11:23am, 5 Jul 2024
5,703 posts
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paulcook
Fields wrote: 1.6% more than last time round and 8-10% less than the polls said Starmer out? And 2/3 of the seats for 1/3 of the vote ? 3.2 million fewer votes than 2017. And fewer than 2019. Also the lowest %age share for any government to win a majority. But that's not how our system work. So he's won. Hard work starts here. |
5 Jul
11:25am, 5 Jul 2024
11,461 posts
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Fields
paulcook wrote: As long as the adults are in charge that’s the main thing
3.2 million fewer votes than 2017. And fewer than 2019. Also the lowest %age share for any government to win a majority. But that's not how our system work. So he's won. Hard work starts here. |
5 Jul
11:30am, 5 Jul 2024
5,704 posts
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paulcook
Not many adults in blue though.
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5 Jul
11:31am, 5 Jul 2024
21,372 posts
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Cerrertonia
Mushroom wrote: Can't see it. Lee Anderson showed that before the election was the time to do it - no way would he have won if he'd stayed as a Conservative candidate.
Is it possible that some of the losing Tories decide to switch to Reform? |
5 Jul
11:43am, 5 Jul 2024
21,866 posts
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Chrisull
Bad news, Tories unexpectedly held Dumfries and Galloway against the Lib Dems. They now have 121, that means @kstuart is our winner. Congrats! |
5 Jul
11:43am, 5 Jul 2024
5,415 posts
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J2R
So how happy or otherwise are people with the outcome? I have to confess to being a tad disappointed, even though Labour have won a huge majority and the Conservatives have slumped to their worst ever defeat. I was so hoping the Cons would be well under 100 because that would be complete annihilation territory, very hard to come back from. 121 may, just, be "pick themselves up, dust themselves off" territory. Still, depends how they react to their defeat. Bitter infighting, I hope (and expect). Needless to say, they can be ignored for quite a while.
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5 Jul
11:45am, 5 Jul 2024
127 posts
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Yakima Canutt
Labour share of popular vote didn't change much in England but it was up 17% in Scotland. SNP changers went to labour. If those wanted Independence but register protest then they could go to the Greens but they didn't. Will be interesting to break down the analysis later on. |
5 Jul
11:47am, 5 Jul 2024
3,103 posts
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Grast_girl
Overall, probably OK with the result. Tories out was my priority. We have more lib dem MPs than I hoped for, which is good (same for greens). Shame about the vote share for Reform given some of the comments that came from their candidates (equating autistic people to vegetables being the worse one I saw with my own eyes before it was deleted). Wish we'd got Hunt out locally, but we can't have everything, and he might go back to being more moderate now the worst of the tories are gone.
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