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Oct 2023
8:52pm, 20 Oct 2023
15,662 posts
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jda
You don’t get £500m in the first place if you’re the sort of person who thinks rationally about satisfying your material needs.
Well, ok, he married it, but he could have stopped there.
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Oct 2023
9:02pm, 20 Oct 2023
10,186 posts
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Fields
The ruling class don’t really care about spending time with family, they send them away to public schools, and put their wealth / power accumulating first ahead of everything
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Oct 2023
9:07pm, 20 Oct 2023
8,334 posts
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Pothunter
Do the Tories have an alternative to Sunak? If he did step aside following the results in Bed and Tam who would we land up with?
Oddschecker suggests Kemi Badenoch and Penny Mordaunt followed by James Cleverly and Suella Braverman. Yikes!
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Oct 2023
9:10pm, 20 Oct 2023
3,494 posts
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paulcook
Braverman was definitely posturing at Conference for her leadership campaign. There would have been others.
But I think that's some of the problem. Who would take over?
Don't know if it's true but apparently letters aren't allowed to go to 1922 committee yet because it's too soon since the previous leadership round but the good/bad news that day will come around all of next Wednesday.
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Oct 2023
9:16pm, 20 Oct 2023
3,495 posts
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paulcook
Coincidentally just seen this comment (apparently a Conservative MP) about Sunak
The problem is while he may be a first race academic he's a fifth rate politician. He does not connect and has the leadership qualities of an amoeba.
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Oct 2023
9:16pm, 20 Oct 2023
4,080 posts
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Cheg
Anyone with any sense that’s a Tory, insert joke here.
Lets Sunak bomb. Labour come in. Then they become the comeback candidate. You take the poison chalice now and you become the person at the helm when the Conservatives got mullered.
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Oct 2023
9:17pm, 20 Oct 2023
31,116 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Can’t see a challenge to Sunak before the election myself, but you never know.
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Oct 2023
10:21pm, 20 Oct 2023
23,906 posts
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richmac
I don't buy or believe anything about respect or admiration for Sunak.
He's an unaware incompetent middle manager appointed by the people actually in charge to oversee a closure of a branch or factory but is so conceited or thick, they think they are there to 'turn things around '
Like Johnson and Truss before him he had no idea how shit he is at his job
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Oct 2023
10:31pm, 20 Oct 2023
10,189 posts
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Fields
Coincidentally just seen this comment (apparently a Conservative MP) about Sunak The problem is while he may be a first race academic he's a fifth rate politician. He does not connect and has the leadership qualities of an amoeba.
Could be said about Starmer too
And indeed most politicians
now they’re all professional politicians from school. When politicians had previously worked normal working class jobs, been union reps etc they were actually for, from and of the community they represented
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Oct 2023
10:41pm, 20 Oct 2023
23,908 posts
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richmac
I disagree with that.
Yes Starmer succeeded, he made that most of his opportunities, but he worked at a job and did manual labour in his early years.
I think he connects or at least has the ability to connect on a way Sunak has no concept of.
Many people, working class people see union officials, who work for the union and don't get their hands dirty, as just as unworthy as the bosses.
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Fantasy General Election
Jul 2024