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Oct 2023
7:28pm, 20 Oct 2023
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richmac
Absolutely, the least legitimate PM ever.
Oct 2023
7:28pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Johnny Blaze
Jim Jordan booted as well. Good things come in threes.

I doubt Rish! is one of the world’s great political thinkers. His rise to the top has been greased by his money, education, connections and, crucially, by not being Truss or Johnson. He was never voted in by his party or by the electorate. What is his political philosophy? Where is the evidence of his service to the common weal? When the cannons start to roar he will be like a thin-skinned, lightweight deer in the headlights.

The ground is falling away beneath his feet very quickly now.
Oct 2023
7:40pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Derby Tup
I still fear they will get in again. I'm sixty next year. I've lived most of my adult working life under a Conservative administration
Oct 2023
7:53pm, 20 Oct 2023
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paulcook
If Sunak is still leader they haven't got a prayer. None. Even if he waits as long as possible with him in charge nothing could happen to turn the tide.

Both those results last night are curious. I think they'll both quickly go back to Conservative again because the results were fairly close but the swings are so big that they indicate Labour will pick up enough seats elsewhere on their target list. As one person said on the TV last night, Labour's road to victory doesn't go through Tamworth.
Oct 2023
8:02pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Johnny Blaze
Labour can still lose but at this point I’d say a lot has to go wrong for them to lose and a lot has to go right for the Tories, because the fundamentals aren’t going their way and the past will not be forgotten that easily.

As for the idea that Rish! will rally his raddled, decrepit and exhausted troops to the breach once more. No. Not a chance.
Oct 2023
8:08pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Cheg
I don’t like Sunak but no human being on earth wanted the job or could have done it. The Conservatives and the country was in a shit state and still is. Increasing interest rates, inflation, brexit fallout.

How he gets out of bed everyday and puts himself through it is admirable.

Another year of letting the shit work itself through the system should hopefully mean that we have bottomed out by the time Labour get a hold of it.

Then they can get some early momentum with the natural upswing, and push on with hopefully a healthy majority.
Oct 2023
8:15pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Johnny Blaze
I think that’s the problem with a lot of the most recent Tory occupants of Number 10 - I’m looking at Cameron, Sunak and Johnson (most of all) here: they want the job for the sake of slaking their personal ambition, but once they have it they have no idea what to do with it. In the case of Johnson he was lacking even the most basic tools of a politician: a grasp of reality and a plan.

I will exclude Truss and the Maybot from this because I think the Maybot had some notional sense of public service, and even Truss had “a plan”, although it turns out it was more batshit than a 70 foot mound of batshit.
Oct 2023
8:39pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Little Nemo
I don’t like Sunak but no human being on earth wanted the job or could have done it.


Except he obviously does want it otherwise he could just call an election, surely?
Oct 2023
8:46pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Fields
All about how many public assets he can steal and public funds he can divert to his family, friends and cronies
Oct 2023
8:48pm, 20 Oct 2023
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Cheg
Yeah I can’t understand the motivation. If I had £200m or £500m or whatever he’s got I’d spend time with my family, write about sport, going on a world tour of the biggest and best sporting events. I definitely wouldn’t pick a job where I got dogs abuse every single day.

Is it the power? Does he think he can turn his £500m into £800m given his position? Does he love the Conservative Party, and wants the least bad outcome for them?

Sorry all questions no answers. I don’t think he’d give you a true answer if you asked him.

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