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Dec 2019
2:01pm, 11 Dec 2019
3,394 posts
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mr d
DV just don't want a No Deal, break up the UK shitshow of a Brexit.
Starving the disabled and terminally ill aren't on my wish list either.
Don't want a hung parliament, it's just a bit better.
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Dec 2019
2:06pm, 11 Dec 2019
10,288 posts
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Markymarkmark
I'd like to think you're right, TommyK. But I'm not that optimistic!
DV, I see a hung parliament as the current least bad option, not a good one.
It seems to be the only route to getting a final & decisive referendum on Brexit, which in turn is what we need to start reconciliation across the divide the whole ill-conceived and poorly executed original referendum created in our national life.
And as you intimated earlier, I do think Brexit is pretty much the only game in town now in terms of key policy. Pretty much everything else is promises we can't fund without significant increases in taxation.
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Dec 2019
2:07pm, 11 Dec 2019
37 posts
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Daft Vader
Nobody wants a NO Deal, but with everybody driving the boat, instead of one party, a No Deal shitshow is what we end up with.
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Dec 2019
2:09pm, 11 Dec 2019
38 posts
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Daft Vader
Markymarkmark, I guess that answer re a hung parliment makes some sense for Remainers.
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Dec 2019
2:09pm, 11 Dec 2019
15,650 posts
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Bazoaxe
Remember we won’t have the same make up of mps this time around as the sensible tories have largely been purged.
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Dec 2019
2:12pm, 11 Dec 2019
5,945 posts
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jda
I'm hoping for a libdem landslide. But failing that, every non-tory seat is a step in the right direction. I'd even tolerate a labour majority though would prefer it if they were a bit more limited.
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Dec 2019
2:18pm, 11 Dec 2019
2,432 posts
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J2R
DV, it's easy to see how having a hung parliament can be portrayed as meaning nothing gets done. But given that the main thing the government wants to get done would be an utter disaster, many of us would be very glad to see the continuation of a hung parliament that has so far prevented this outcome.
In fact, it would not really mean business as usual. It would mean that the attempt to end the impasse by having a general election has failed, which would make it much more likely that there would be a majority in the house for a second referendum as an alternative. Labour would assuredly back it this time, as would any remaining moderates within the Conservatives (I suspect there won't be many of them after tomorrow).
Having said that, I'm much less confident now that Remain would actually win a second referendum than I have hitherto been. I feel I may have overestimated the swing to Remain, given that the country seems to be about to install a new Conservative government who will go for the hardest of Brexits at the first possible opportunity. I hold out some hope that this is not so much a thumbs-up for Brexit as a thumbs-down for Corbyn, but I'm really not sure. I must say I wish I could really believe in TommyK's predicted outcome above!
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Dec 2019
2:19pm, 11 Dec 2019
2,402 posts
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Fellrunning
At least with a hung parliament we get a chance to rinse and repeat. Just keep holding elections until we get the correct answer....
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Dec 2019
2:20pm, 11 Dec 2019
2,556 posts
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HappyTimes
Second ref was not on the table with current/previous government so I completely fail to see how they would move to that if I am absolutely Frank HG.
Much is speculation of what would, could , might happen.
What I and all of us KNOW has happened last 3 years is the square root of jack shit under similar scenario.
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Dec 2019
2:23pm, 11 Dec 2019
2,557 posts
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HappyTimes
Also uncertainty (as we have now had for 3 years/5 if we add in Indy ref) is often worse for the economy/business/individuals than a defined path which some agree with some disagree with. All (most) can adapt and make choices with a defined path. Uncertainty nobody can.
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