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Jan 2018
1:53pm, 9 Jan 2018
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Rosehip
Going back to the AED comments. Yes they're brilliant and I think all parkruns should have one or access to one in a hurry
However, I had my first aid re-certification training yesterday and "playing" with the AED made me think of the following points for this thread (apologies if these were mentioned ages ago, I haven't been reading this thread very long):
If your parkrun has one - or access to one - make sure several of the regulars know how to use it - Yes they do talk you through the process - but things like avoiding/removing necklaces, removing underwired bras and even shaving a really hairy person aren't mentioned!
Nor is not standing in the same puddle as the casualty - drying a wet casualty and keeping the rain off with a brolly
The pads can give nasty burns if they're not fully/firmly attached
Some AEDs are fully automatic and give the shock without you needing to press a button - so you need to be very aware that everyone close is clear/not in the same puddle etc.
How to arrange the pads differently if the casualty has a scar that might be an internal pacemaker or defib.
If your parkrun has one, then it might make sense to have a kitbag which includes a pair of scissors, maybe a razor, a towel and also a protective mask for cpr with it.
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Jan 2018
2:21pm, 9 Jan 2018
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chunkywizard
good points Rosehip, thanks for those - I didn't know.
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Jan 2018
2:40pm, 9 Jan 2018
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Ultracat
Interesting points Rosehip, silly question do you really have time to shave a person chest if their heart has stopped beating?
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Jan 2018
2:45pm, 9 Jan 2018
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HellsBells
you don't have time not to UC - if the pads can't make contact, they're useless
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Jan 2018
2:57pm, 9 Jan 2018
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Maz Heeps
Bear in mind that the person is technically dead. The AED will not function if it detects a heart rhythm. There's nothing you can do with the AED that risks them being more dead. The risks from burning and the like a far lower than the risk of doing nothing.
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Jan 2018
3:01pm, 9 Jan 2018
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DeeGee
Those of us that bought AEDs via parkrun's preferred supplier should have received a prep kit with the scissors, razor, mask and such like.
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Jan 2018
3:16pm, 9 Jan 2018
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Rosehip
but if they're burning the casualty they're not doing their job and the user is much less likely to have another go ......
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Jan 2018
3:17pm, 9 Jan 2018
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Rosehip
That's good to know DG - it seems that schools' preferred suppliers don't!
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Jan 2018
3:24pm, 9 Jan 2018
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mrs shanksi
Our core team had a training session from a paramedic when we got our AED.
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Jan 2018
3:33pm, 9 Jan 2018
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LindsD
We did too, but I couldn't make it 
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