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20 Jul
2:41pm, 20 Jul 2024
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Big_G
I am not sure if it is ‘time to next hard session’, SPR? I thought it was ‘time to next session at the last session’s effort’? Definitely happy to be shown to be wrong though. Under normal training it tends to vary for me between around 16hrs and 48hrs. I’ve done marathons on consecutive days a few times, and it doesn’t like that though!
20 Jul
2:47pm, 20 Jul 2024
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Big_G
You got my googling where I got that from (my italics).

“Recovery time provides an estimate on how long it will take for you to fully recover and be ready for your next workout of the same intensity

support.garmin.com
SPR
20 Jul
2:49pm, 20 Jul 2024
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SPR
This page says what you said @Big_G support.garmin.com

but that doesn't make much sense and isn't very useful. If you do a race and you need four days recovery, you can do an easy run that doesn't add to the recovery needs and the recovery time then shown doesn't suddenly become applicable to an easy run. Note suggested sessions will normally suggest rest of recovery needs are (4 and possibly 3) days but will recommend sessions around the 2 days or less mark.

I've read about time to the next hard session a few places before, will need to Google to see if I can find a page with that.
SPR
20 Jul
2:54pm, 20 Jul 2024
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SPR
Here's the Firstbeats page on recovery adviser.

firstbeatanalytics.com

"Recovery Time predicts how long it will be before your body is fully recovered and ready for your next intense fitness-improving type workout."

The 20 hour thing is more something I would do if I take the number seriously. I'm not sure I've read that anywhere but the colour coding fits with it. Clearly you don't need to be fully recovered to train all the time, if you did taper wouldn't exist. The balance is not going to far the other way.
SPR
20 Jul
2:55pm, 20 Jul 2024
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SPR
Should have copied that whole paragraph.

"Recovery Time predicts how long it will be before your body is fully recovered and ready for your next intense fitness-improving type workout. Of course, you can still be physically active during the countdown, but if improved performance is your goal may be best to keep your workout activities light and refreshing until you have fully recovered."
20 Jul
3:00pm, 20 Jul 2024
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Big_G
SPR, thanks. That does make more sense. In fact, the Garmin pages link to the firstbeat page, so it is a bit confusing that they say different things.

In reality, I still do still disagree with the firstbeat wording though. It implies you can only get fit from doing sessions where it says ‘fitness-improving type workout’, and I do not think that is correct.
SPR
20 Jul
3:08pm, 20 Jul 2024
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SPR
I think the intense in front of that phrase is important @Big_G, therefore you can have moderate fitness-improving type workouts or easy fitness-improving type workouts. I'm not sure why they phrased it they way they did though.
20 Jul
3:33pm, 20 Jul 2024
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mr d
That all makes a bit more sense.
21 Jul
8:06am, 21 Jul 2024
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quimby
This morning, my Garmin announced my training readiness was "5. Poor." Then underneath, it said "Well done!". What?

I still went out and ran 11 miles. (Why is there no middle finger emoji?)
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21 Jul
8:09am, 21 Jul 2024
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um
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