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Aug 2020
2:40pm, 22 Aug 2020
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SPR
That's what I said CW, lol.
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Aug 2020
4:50pm, 22 Aug 2020
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Badger
It’s been in the file for many models for many years, just that Garmin software doesn’t extract & display it. Pretty much nobody else’s either, bar Runalyze as SPR says.
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Aug 2020
5:10pm, 22 Aug 2020
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StuH
But if it no longer appear on screen 2 minutes after stopping how do I know it's safe to save? Thought I had missed it this morning,
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Aug 2020
5:21pm, 22 Aug 2020
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SPR
You can check it before saving. See comments over the last couple of pages.
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Aug 2020
5:24pm, 22 Aug 2020
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The_Saint
I found RHR in Runalyze but this appears to be the rate after 2 minutes rather than the actual drop which is the figure that matters.
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Aug 2020
7:49pm, 22 Aug 2020
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Badger
True (I guess we could debate whether the actual drop, or the drop relative to the HR at the end of the activity, but certainly the rate in isolation isn't very useful). That is actually the value that Garmin store (just dug out some python/fitparse code that retrieves it from files & kicked it into working with my current versions of everything).
Wouldn't be hard for them to add either the final HR value of the activity, or the drop.
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Aug 2020
8:18pm, 22 Aug 2020
6,554 posts
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The_Saint
It seems really low effort given that I think I first saw this feature with the 610 to not store it. For the avoidance of doubt if you look up the medical literature it most certainly is the drop over the two minutes from stopping that is the key value.
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Aug 2020
8:37pm, 22 Aug 2020
12,689 posts
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Badger
Oh I'm not arguing about that, just making the point that the context matters too - a drop of say 35 from 180 to 145 might mean something a bit different from a drop from 145 to 110. My current watch shows the drop most prominently, and the current HR in smaller figures, so both are available on that screen.
I'd also agree that just storing the drop would be more useful than the current mode (though highly unlikely to change after so many years), and storing both in some form would cost a byte per activity and save somewhat in coding.
I've sent Runalyze feedback asking if they could calculate it & display it.
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Aug 2020
8:50pm, 22 Aug 2020
6,555 posts
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The_Saint
My understanding of heart rate recovery is that it is a key marker of heart health, I think the point about the value at the end point of exercise is moot for me as I never finish a run as a gentle trot, I always finish at a high intensity.
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Aug 2020
9:24pm, 22 Aug 2020
12,690 posts
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Badger
Mm. Not moot for me at all - I rather subscribe to the 80/20 approach, so I'd only finish at high intensity for a workout that's meant to be high intensity right to the end.
Mind you, you'd win at any distance  I'm curious now about my own numbers, will go and look at how the drop varies between say a hard 5k and easy short and long runs.
I read some of the clinical literature a while back and I recall it was quite prescriptive about the exercise protocol that you recover from, hence my curiosity about how much the drop varies with intensity & duration of the workout you're recovering from.
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