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Sep 2020
1:34pm, 20 Sep 2020
519 posts
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forest plodder
Katie, I'm so glad that your mum got her hug.
School situations do sound tricky. Both grandsons seem to be adjusting to being back, and so far so good with no known cases in either school.
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Sep 2020
1:51pm, 20 Sep 2020
6,878 posts
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Helegant
Katie, I love your photos and had wet eyes looking at them. I know hw much that would have meant, particularly to your Mum.
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Sep 2020
2:29pm, 20 Sep 2020
11,485 posts
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geordiegirl
The school situation is just awful. We don’t have kids but listening to friends it’s so hard. One friend said yesterday the kids are in masks ALL DAY other than eating lunch. How hard for them.
KatieB so glad granny got a hug ❤️
I waver between I’ve had minimal contact with anyone and the worry the minimal contact could transmit a virus. I’m exceptionally careful wherever I go.
Just been to the Metrocentre today my first actual shops other than food shop and one trip to Wilko for paintbrushes. It was ok shops have good measures in and I felt safe enough but def didn’t make for casual browsing.
I did go to beaverbrooks to look at a new Garmin fenix but resisted the temptation (this time)
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Sep 2020
2:35pm, 20 Sep 2020
8,412 posts
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jda
I just don't see how the schools thing is sustainable, sending classes home for random periods at random times through the term/year must be impossible for many parents as well as incredibly disruptive to education.
It is criminal that they haven't arranged rapid pool testing for classes/bubbles/whatever. (The idea - which dates back decades - is that by mixing samples together, you can test a whole group all at once, and if they are all negative - which will usually be the case - then you're done, just for the cost/resources of a single test analysis. If the test is positive, of course you have to do more tests to find out who it is.)
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Sep 2020
2:41pm, 20 Sep 2020
36,984 posts
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DocM
one of the labs in london is working that way to try to keep up with demand. I think it is 4 samples at a time and then retest all four separately if it comes up positive
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Sep 2020
2:45pm, 20 Sep 2020
36,985 posts
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DocM
jda im interested to know your thoughts on the impact of univesity terms starting. Seems sensible to have the children back at school, most of them live at home but all these older teens and twenties seems like a big risk, especially as the numbers are already rising. We are at the point where we need to be stepping up the measures not adding to the risk I thought, but how much of a risk do the universities add?
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Sep 2020
3:42pm, 20 Sep 2020
6,879 posts
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Helegant
Pool sampling sounds like a sensible way forwards. I must ask if that's how the staff tests are done at work.
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Sep 2020
3:54pm, 20 Sep 2020
15,822 posts
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jennywren
I talked to a woman who does our garden yesterday, whom I hadn’t seen for a while. She and her partner and her partner’s grown up son all had Covid in March and were all very poorly for about a month. Her (schoolage) kids were fine, no symptoms and tested negative. This is a very strange virus. It’s the first time I’ve spoken to someone who’s had it and from what she described I certainly don’t want it!
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Sep 2020
4:04pm, 20 Sep 2020
68,028 posts
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swittle
If I might comment re return to university, DocM, one new starter [BBC Radio 4 last week, 'You & Yours', I think] said that much of the course content would be delivered online and, although a number of emails had been sent to students, they consisted largely of links to online material. This student said attendance on the course in person was one hour per week.
Accommodation will vary: halls; bedsits; group houses; living at home, for example, but it's the extra-university activities that are probably of greater concern. Merseyside will be under the latest restrictions from next Tuesday, with pubs, clubs etc. to close 10pm to 5am.
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Sep 2020
4:04pm, 20 Sep 2020
8,413 posts
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jda
I don't know quantitatively Doc but it's hard to imagine the UK experience will be far removed from the USA situation where from what I've heard there have already been large outbreaks across many campuses. Young adults, away from home for the first time in many cases....what could possibly go wrong? Social mixing is a large part of the point! I remember significant flu outbreaks at the start of the first term in at least two of my years, I was ill myself on one of those occasions.
Ideally (from the virus point of view), the students will all congregate and mix for a few weeks, until the infection is well established, and then they'll all be sent home to give it to their parents.
Sorry if that sounds too cynical and negative, I'm sure the unis will do their best under difficult circumstances, but I can't see it going well.
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