Coronavirus discussion thread

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larkim Jan 2021 11:56am, 29 Jan 2021 13,372 posts	0 larkim My sister contacted me in a flap yesterday. Her partner is due to be released from hospital after breaking his hip and is heading to his home today (they have an odd setup!) - he lives in a large residential house which has shared accesses and a large proportion of elderly residents. On Tuesday evening she got a "self isolation" alert from her NHS app advising 11 days of self isolation. As she'd not left her house or seen anyone at all for 2 days since Sunday when she had an opticians appointment, she immediately assumed that the close contact must have happened then, so was very concerned that she should stay clear of her partner and his house to do the right thing. But as SI is 10 days from the day after contact, I'm right in thinking that the contact alert must have been someone that her phone thought she was in contact with on Tuesday only - it can't backdate to Sunday, even if the person only tested on Tuesday can it? I presume a neighbour has tested positive and the phone has picked up the connection through a party wall etc. I don't want to advise her to ignore the app if my logic is incorrect though!
DocM Jan 2021 11:57am, 29 Jan 2021 39,533 posts	0 DocM supermarket delivery once a week (have done for years). I now plan carefully so dont need to go to supermarket for top ups, particularly during this last wave. Son works in the butchers, daughter in the bakers and the candlestick maker is closed. so thats us sorted
MH Jan 2021 12:06pm, 29 Jan 2021 805 posts	0 MH Going to supermarket probably not an issue, working in it possibly different. Large supermarket (Where every little helps apparently) near me are telling staff to turn off track and tracing, as it's having too much effect on their staffing levels.
EvilPixie Jan 2021 12:08pm, 29 Jan 2021 22,766 posts	0 EvilPixie I don't see shopping as an issue as huge open space with high ceilings for supermarkets and butcher has door open and 2 people max
Fragile Do Not Bend Jan 2021 12:13pm, 29 Jan 2021 7,793 posts	0 Fragile Do Not Bend Larkim the NHS website says “ Your self-isolation period includes the day you were last in contact with the person who tested positive and the next 10 full days.” nhs.uk
Fragile Do Not Bend Jan 2021 12:14pm, 29 Jan 2021 7,794 posts	0 Fragile Do Not Bend Which suggests the app thought she’d been in contact with someone on Tuesday, which seems odd.
um Jan 2021 12:14pm, 29 Jan 2021 4,196 posts	0 um larkim - I suspect that's an example of why the self isolate instructon is the lowest compliance. Without details, no-one really believes it. Add a date/time/place and people could argue it, but with no details and a vague 'guess' at the time/place (whether rigorous logic as your case or best guess), then the default returns to 'must be wrong'. Has she been contacted by contact tracers? (are they still working?) I thought the app notification wasn't legally binding (England), but ignoring contact tracer instruction was?
jda Jan 2021 12:16pm, 29 Jan 2021 9,337 posts	0 jda I agree it's probably low risk for customers in a well managed scenario, which I have locally. Nevertheless it's the most contact I have and seems appropriate to reduce it as much as reasonably practicable.
Fragile Do Not Bend Jan 2021 12:17pm, 29 Jan 2021 7,795 posts	0 Fragile Do Not Bend (Larkim, I misread your post and ended up repeating what you already knew, oops)
HellsBells Jan 2021 12:20pm, 29 Jan 2021 27,650 posts	0 HellsBells I have face to face contact with 2 team members and up to 15 clients every week at foodbank, then direct hands on contact with 50 assorted random strangers every vaccine session. I don’t worry about going shopping.