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Sep 2022
3:08pm, 14 Sep 2022
1,303 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Not sure he'd watch his military get routed like this if he had more troops to commit
Looks like he might have other priorities than the special operation at the moment:
Igor Sushko @igorsushko 6h
Rumors that Putin's motorcade of armored vehicles was attacked. An ambulance blocked the lead car while another vehicle drove around the motorcade and dropped an explosive on the vehicle carrying Putin. All information surrounding the unsuccessful attack has been classified.
Igor Sushko @igorsushko 6h
In case it's not clear, emphasis that this information is unverified. Could be someone's wishful thinking to start planting the seed in everyone's head. Don't really see how it could be Kremlin disinformation as such a rumor does not help Putin, especially right now.
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Whether any of that is true or not, there's more dissent in Moscow than at any point before, local councils calling for him to resign and admit the war has been a disaster. That would have been unthinkable months ago, mid level politicians in Russia calling Putin out.
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Sep 2022
4:16pm, 14 Sep 2022
1,840 posts
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Muttley
A rumour on Twitter? Seems legit .... 
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Sep 2022
5:00pm, 14 Sep 2022
1,304 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Same guy who translates the Winds of Change letters from the FSB mole. He's careful to point out it's unconfirmed there
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Sep 2022
7:05pm, 15 Sep 2022
9,135 posts
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Northern Exile
Weekly spiel from The Conversation:
While his troops struggle to regroup in the face of a lightning-fast Ukrainian offensive in the northeast, Vladimir Putin is in Samarkand, fabled halfway point of the silk road in Uzbekistan, for a summit meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO). While he is there he has a busy schedule of face-to-face meetings with various world leaders who have yet to condemn his invasion of Ukraine.
One of Putin's key meetings will have been with Xi Jinping. Early reports say the Russian president acknowledged Xi's "concern" about the war. But he thanked the Chinese president for his "balanced position" on Ukraine. Full details of these talks will emerge in coming days.
It's likely the Russian president is relieved to be able get away from the Kremlin for a few days, given the pressure he must surely be feeling over the military setbacks of the past week or so. He won't be unaware of the tone of reports in the western media that are confidently predicting that Ukraine could actually win the war.
This is a conclusion shared by Frank Ledwidge, an expert in military strategy at the University of Portsmouth, who has spent time in Kyiv recently and believes that Ukraine's recent military success will play well in Washington, London and in other countries that have aligned themselves with Kyiv.
Weeks like this fully vindicate the massive military aid packages provided to Ukraine and will make it easier for western leaders to justify more of the same, Ledwidge writes.
The speed with which Ukrainian troops have rolled up the Russian military in the northeast has taken everyone by surprise. The Russian military appeared to fall apart in the face of the ferocious offensive. This is in no small part due to failings in the Russian military's command and control, which is in disarray, writes Portsmouth University's Christopher Morris.
Morris believes that reforms introduced by Putin over the years to "coup-proof" the military, by centralising much more power in the office of president, has hampered the Russian war effort and made it harder to coordinate units in the air, on the ground and at sea.
Another indication of the apparently parlous state of Russia's military, writes Christopher Michael Faulkner, assistant professor of national security affairs at the US Naval War College, is the use of mercenary units such as the Wagner Group. Most modern wars involve mercenaries to some degree, Faulkner says, but the increasing visibility of these units – as well as the plan to use convicts in battle – suggests that the Kremlin is running as short of ideas as it is of trained fighting personnel.
What does Putin do next?
So what's Putin's next move? Will he introduce mass mobilisation? Will reservists and conscripts be dispatched to Ukraine? This would be deeply unpopular and – in the case of conscripts – will require a change of the law writes Alexander Hill, professor of military history at the University of Calgary, who has weighed up Putin's options.
There are also fears that, feeling his back to the wall, Putin might choose to escalate. Matthew Sussex, a fellow in the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre at Australian National University, says the Russian president has a number of possible courses of action in addition to the ideas already canvassed here.
None of them are particularly palatable. Invading Moldova or staging a provocation against Estonia could bring the conflict a step nearer to involving Nato, while resorting to the use of tactical nuclear weapons is unlikely, but can't be ruled out, says Sussex.
What do Ukrainians want?
With all the high-level rhetoric flying around over the past six months, the voices of ordinary Ukrainians have sometimes been lost. But a survey of 1,160 people in areas not occupied by the Russians which was conducted by a team of Oxford academics recently was pretty unequivocal.
Given a range of options and trade-offs, the vast majority (79%) would not countenance a Russian-backed government in Kyiv under any circumstances and no matter how many casualties Ukraine had to suffer. They felt the same way about ceding territory. In fact – and interestingly – those who said they might accept a Russian-backed government would only do do in the event that Ukraine would be restored to its pre-2014 borders.
One of Russia's red lines in the lead up to the war was always the expansion of Nato into the vacuum left by the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Russia has repeatedly stressed that there was an agreement between the late US president, George H.W. Bush and Mikhail Gorbachev, the last president of the Soviet Union, who died at the end of August, that Nato would not seek to sign up former Soviet bloc countries in return for acquiescing to German unification.
Nick Megoran, who researches political geographies and geopolitics of post-cold war international relations at Newcastle University, believes that the west should have paid more attention to this deep-seated Russian concern. Any future security arrangement, he believes, must take this into account.
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Sep 2022
12:48pm, 16 Sep 2022
1,842 posts
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Muttley
Interesting.
Putin was quite subdued when acknowledging Xi's "questions and concerns". Anything that queries his line on Ukraine usually sends him into rant mode. Pretty obvious who wears the trousers in that twosome.
My hunch of Putin is that he will escalate, going for infrastructure in an attempt to put Ukraine into the dark ages, no electricity or heating or water. If he does, imho we should give Zelensky all the long-range weapons he wants so he can respond in kind.
And I'm going to disagree with those who say the West should have paid more respect to Russia's antipathy towards Nato. The alliance didn't press gang eastern Europe into joining it, they were clamouring at the door. They know what having Russia as a neighbour is like and couldn't wait to get out of the Kremlin's clutches. The Russians talk of this deal that Gorbachev had about no Nato expansion but there's nothing in writing. Maybe they were naive or were just conned but as we know, a verbal agreement ain't worth the paper it's written on. "Respect our concerns" is Russian-speak for "big countries can decide the security policies of little countries".
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Sep 2022
12:58pm, 16 Sep 2022
36,745 posts
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LazyDaisy
I agree with all of that Muttley.
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Sep 2022
3:11pm, 16 Sep 2022
9,288 posts
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GordonG
according to today's Guardian:
"Reuters... report that Putin apparently told India's Modi that he wanted the conflict in Ukraine to end asap, but that Ukraine was set on achieving its objectives on the battlefield, according to Indian TV translation of Putin's comments at a bilateral meeting"
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Sep 2022
5:09pm, 16 Sep 2022
36,752 posts
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LazyDaisy
I'm sure if he withdrew his forces and respected Ukraine's pre 2014 boundaries the Ukrainians would be prepared to lay down their arms...
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Sep 2022
12:18pm, 17 Sep 2022
30,479 posts
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macca 53
[far too simple that, LD] 🤷♂️
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Sep 2022
1:01pm, 18 Sep 2022
19,790 posts
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richmac
Ukraine has pushed, in some areas, right to the Russian border (huzzah). I'm sure they don't need advice from me, but to make the bastard's nervous I'd be parking those decoy HIMARs within the real things range of Belgorod long enough for them to be spotted and force Putin to waste resource A) just in case and B) reassure the population they are not going to receive some of their own armies medicine.
But then again I'm an asshole.
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