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The Sub-40-10k help and advice thread

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Feb 2009
4:09pm, 24 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
So by my current 5K time (or even just of the one I ran but not as hard asIi could at Bramhall this month 18:43)- I 'should' be doing 39:** or thereabouts

Hmmm - food for thought
Feb 2009
4:09pm, 24 Feb 2009
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SPR™
And I was quite a bit slower over a mile then.
Feb 2009
4:17pm, 24 Feb 2009
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threedrains
make sure the course is accuarte to. I ran down at dorney last week and was under the illusion of a 10km race. turned out it was 10.5km according to a few gps - so do I record the 42.08 (watch time) or the official 44:08 (or something like that. Either way its a new PB but a kick in the teeth when the course is out! Im looking to nail the sub 40 10Km later this year. More speed training and long running required i think. But pulled it down from 52m in the last 8 months!
Feb 2009
4:20pm, 24 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
If it was a certified course - and no-one was sent the wrong way - then GPS's DO tend to over read, especially when a course is in a built up area or there are lots of turns in it
Feb 2009
4:27pm, 24 Feb 2009
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mxhornet
Indeed you'd only hit bang on 10k if you kept to the optimum line. For instance even in a 1500m track race, if you spent half the race running wide in the second lane you'd actually have covered 14-15 metres extra.
Feb 2009
4:31pm, 24 Feb 2009
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SPR™
Even the optimum line will be slightly longer than 10k as i'm sure I read somewhere they add a little to the distance just in case there is an error.
Feb 2009
4:32pm, 24 Feb 2009
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SPR™
Better to be long than short policy
Feb 2009
4:33pm, 24 Feb 2009
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mxhornet
Yes that is often the case a touch extra just to be sure.
Feb 2009
4:45pm, 24 Feb 2009
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paul the builder
el Bee - your shiny new marathon PB is very close to mine. And off the back of Dublin last year, and that big aerobic base, I did 4-5 hard weeks of speedwork (the sort of stuff I hadn't been doing in the months leading up to the marathon), and ran a 37:57 (down from 40:02 one month prior to the marathon). So you can run circa 38 too. Or you could if you focused on speed now for a few weeks - which you're clearly not going to.... but later in the year, perhaps?

And that's pretty much my general advice - don't try to perfect your speed and endurance in parallel. Work on the aerobic stuff (that takes the longest - base building, marathon training, conditioning, call it what you will). You will lose pace while doing this but it doesn't matter. Run your target marathopn or half marathon at this point if you have one. Then after a week's recovery, 4-8 weeks of speedwork will bring all the pace back - and then go and run your target 10km.
Feb 2009
4:49pm, 24 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
paul - that's interesting! Once I have got May out of the way - and as long as I don't 'break' myself, I should have a really decent aerobic base by then....
...that might be a good time to do some decent structured speed work for my shorter distances!

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