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Feb 2012
12:59pm, 21 Feb 2012
12,361 posts
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Fenland Runner
flanker, the problem with Stuart Mills' blog is precisely that he has a GB vest doing it.
Truthfully, I've never performed well going out fast, at any race, of any length.
Therefore in summary for the average runner, or in my case, sub-average runner, Stuart's assertions are dangerous and silly. Just count at your next race how many people you pass by running either negative or equal splits!!!
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Feb 2012
5:59pm, 21 Feb 2012
2,194 posts
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heebiejeebie
Someone who beat me by ages in a recent marathon described it as a 20 mile jog followed by a 10k race. I may try that strategy some time!
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Feb 2012
6:13pm, 21 Feb 2012
13,750 posts
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flanker
FR, i wasn't advocating it. Just putting forward a different view, and that different people work in different ways. As I've said to you many a time, I believe even pacing is the way to go for a mara and that going out too fast is a recipe for disaster 
Heebs - I pretty much agree, but how I take it is that the PRE should *feel* like a 20 mile jog and a 10k race.
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Feb 2012
6:17pm, 21 Feb 2012
12,364 posts
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Fenland Runner
Sorry, flanker, my response was a bit aggressive and dismissive of the different approach.
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Feb 2012
6:19pm, 21 Feb 2012
13,751 posts
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flanker
s'ok. I didn't take it personally And I do largely agree with you.
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Feb 2012
7:08pm, 21 Feb 2012
1,854 posts
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The Rentboy
hj - Some marathon runners say your race doesn't start until the 20 mile mark.
I've tried races where i put minutes in the bag early on, it only works for me to a certain degree. With my current pb i've started going at even pacing and 'hoping' for a final few miles quicker than that.
Seems to work for some and not for others
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Feb 2012
7:19pm, 21 Feb 2012
26,398 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
Flanks I can sort of understand his view however negative splits in marathons are rare. You will positive split more than likely just how much depends how silly you are ;).
A wise old man (62 years old) once told me (and I trust him as he did 75 marathons ave 3.37 ) the secret of doing a good marathon is two even halfs (or in my case as close as possible)
King hell Fenners if your sub average what de f88c am I lol
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Feb 2012
7:21pm, 21 Feb 2012
12,333 posts
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hellen
My best marathons have been with even pacing but the effort level increasing to maintain the pace
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Feb 2012
10:08pm, 21 Feb 2012
12,370 posts
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Fenland Runner
I've got to make significant progress in the next month, tonight did only three one mile intervals at PMP and heart rate was 82-83%
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Feb 2012
10:51pm, 21 Feb 2012
26,401 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
You might be tired (or old )
Hellen sounds a lot like my marathons with a bit of postive split lol. This year at London with a LOT of POSTIVE split and a lot of walking !!
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