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The sub 3.30 marathon thread

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Jan 2012
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clare1976
Header now updated, hope I've captured everybody who has posted recently - let me know if not!

Anybody else feel free to join in the party / hop on the bus :-)
Jan 2012
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Nelly
Clare - as per a few pages back please can you add me alongside yourself to the "Long term hopefuls" list for now.
Jan 2012
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emdee
aaw, thanks :)
Jan 2012
8:52pm, 10 Jan 2012
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puffinnuffin
Hi All,

I am after a bit of advice on the best training plan. I am going for 3.30 at Greater Manchester on 29th April (and would love 3.20 which I think is possible if my training goes well). 2 weeks into the training I am still deliberating between Hal Higdon Intermediate 2 and Advanced 1. The main difference is the Thursday run which in the intermediate plan is a general run between 3 and 5 miles and in the advanced programme is a range of intervals, hills and tempo runs. I have a 1.36 half-mara time reasonably recently (Sept. '11) which is 7.18 minute miles so - would it be fair to say I have the pace and should concentrate on endurance? Will stepping up to the advanced plan with speedwork make a big difference? Any help would be appreciated.

pn.
Jan 2012
10:03pm, 10 Jan 2012
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slowfish
Hi PN

Seems like you're in a very similar position to me. I'm also training for Manchester and aiming for sub 3.30. Well actually I'm really aiming for sub 3.15 and loitering on that thread. :-O
I'm following HH Intermediate 2 but plan to do one session a week of speedwork BUT only do that session if I don't feel too tired/sore. Priority for me is to never come miss the LSR and ensure I bank plenty of 35+ mile weeks.
Jan 2012
10:17pm, 10 Jan 2012
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♣BelleVueRacer♣ of Beartown
IM GONNA DO IT. BY GOD, IM GONNA CHUFFING DO IT. SUB 3.30 SUB 3.30!

YEAH YEAH YEAH!
Jan 2012
10:52pm, 10 Jan 2012
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Smout
We're all gonna do it!

I think if you're confident you have the pace then the endurance is what to concentrate on. That's my plan this year - consistency an endurance :)

But mines a Smout plan special - kind of planned and shuffled / made up a bit as I go along depending how things go and includes a fair bit of buggy running (otherwise it would mean nae running) and a bit of hill sprints (cos I like them - in a sick kind of way - an cos I feel sit helps my form) OR YASSO-esque type half miles and progressives runs cos they are quite satisfying and the biggest bit for me - attempting to get 2 double figure runs a week :) Oh aye - an I'm hoping from next week to fit some (sub 3:15 an see how it goes) marathon paced miles into some longer runs.

*toddles back off to reassemble the plan*
Jan 2012
10:53pm, 10 Jan 2012
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Smout
Oh aye - an we're all gonna do it! YEAH YEAH YEAH :)
Jan 2012
6:51pm, 11 Jan 2012
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♣BelleVueRacer♣ of Beartown
Workload + cold = no run tonight. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jan 2012
9:32pm, 12 Jan 2012
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puffinnuffin
Thanks for the comments. I realised I posted the above becasue I don't really want to do the speedwork and I was looking for someone to say "it is fine don't do it", and I could feel less guilty. So, I am going to stick with the speedwork sessions for now but they will be the first session to get dropped if am too tired/sore later on whne the milage increases.

So this lunchtime I attempted a hill session. Hal Higdon recommends starting with 4 reps on a hill 1/4 miles. I found a hill near work which is just over half that so I did 8 reps. Is this equivalent?
The splits were 1:02 1:03 1:03 1:04 1:02 1:05 1:06 1:02, so reasonably consistent pace and able to do the last one a the same pace as the first.

I need to find a good spot for 800m intervals next week. I'll try and find a park I can run around that isn't too far away. Thanks again.

pn

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