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Jan 2022
4:05pm, 26 Jan 2022
264 posts
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MAG
Can you add me to the side bar please, i'm doing Manchester?
Ran a 20 miler last Sunday with club was supposed to be 8min/mile but ended up 7:45's and that was me falling off the back. Day before was 15k at marathon pace.......I know too much. Retreat this week, 10 Mile race on Sunday then back to long miles weekend after. Enjoying the training, but in bed by 9:30 most nights...
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Jan 2022
5:25pm, 26 Jan 2022
96 posts
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Mr. Grumpy
That’s great running MAG. I’m beginning to think that I’ve over-reached in my ambition for a sub 3:15 at Manchester, cos I don’t think I’d be able to get anywhere near your paces back to back right now.
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Jan 2022
5:30pm, 26 Jan 2022
2,969 posts
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B Rubble
Nice pace but be careful MAG. Too many of those and you could end up getting ill or injured. We're all different but 7:45 - 8:00 is more like the LR pace for a 3:00hr marathon.
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Jan 2022
5:33pm, 26 Jan 2022
2,970 posts
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B Rubble
X post there Mr G. If you're training with LRs at about 8:30s (I'm not sure what your pace is) I would say you are in the right ball park for a 3:15 marathon.
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Jan 2022
6:25pm, 26 Jan 2022
1,949 posts
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Brunski
Tell me to clear off out the thread if you like but doing long runs as a long steady run (rather than a long slow run) can work as well, depends how you chunk up your training I guess.
You want to get yourself to a place where running 10 miles at your marathon pace feels pretty comfortable IMHO.
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Jan 2022
6:50pm, 26 Jan 2022
11,871 posts
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jda
I do my long runs about 8 min miling, a shade quicker on the pancake flat sections but my route has some slopes. I’m aiming around 2:50 on the day.
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Jan 2022
7:31pm, 26 Jan 2022
2,971 posts
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B Rubble
As I said Brunski, we're all different and cope/react to training in different ways. I don't think you are wrong, it's good marathon training, but running 20 miles with 10 at MP would be a hard session that should be preceded the day before and followed the day after by easier running or rest. I would also do the other 10 miles at slower than MP+1:00 pace.
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Jan 2022
7:33pm, 26 Jan 2022
16,772 posts
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larkim
Whilst I would no longer do it myself, I'll stand behind the "each to their own" approach!
Just looking at the 20m run on the training log though, HR (therefore effort) did seem to get pretty hard by the end.
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Jan 2022
7:35pm, 26 Jan 2022
11,872 posts
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jda
I agree there’s nothing wrong with the odd harder long effort. I’m supposed to be doing up to 25k at MP and will also do one or two half marathons as races. But that’s not something I would advise week in week out.
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Jan 2022
7:38pm, 26 Jan 2022
21,886 posts
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Bazoaxe
Just agreeing with the others but also noting it’s a good run and so key is to build on that
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RW sub3/3.15
Jan 2025